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Shouldermount Flip
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K2weller: you’re supposed to be flipping to the opposite side that your shoulder is on, I think. Maybe that’s why you’re getting friction. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, I still haven’t tried this yet. I just came back and checked on this thread and saw no one had replied to you with a definitive answer.
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no…actually you flip to the same side as the shoulder that is on the pole. Think of it this way…you are rolling on the shoulder all the way back to the other side of the pole. If you flip to other side, your shoulder would have to come off the pole as you turn over. Your shoulder should be the pivoting point on which you flip so you want to keep contact with the pole for as long as possible.
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Awww, thanks for checking on me PDR!
I’m actually realizing that I’m not holding on to the shoulder contact quite long enough at the very end of the flip. I caught it on video and see that I need to slow down the very last part. By focusing too much on the landing, I’m bailing out of the hold too soon, and that’s causing my friction/bruise/ouchiness problems. Don’t you love video?! I’m gonna back it up, forget about the landing on the pole part, and refocus on maintaining my form through the flip.
Cross your fingers! xoxo Kristina
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I’ve had the to-floor flip for a while and gave flipping onto the pole a shot and managed it! Still over-protective of my pubic bone and going into a sit way too far out on my thighs to put it into a combo, but the technique is there. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif Is it meant to be faster? I hold it in a sort of SM pike for ages…
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It’s at 2.37, forgot to mention.
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I tried this move (from the floor with cupped grip) for the first time last week and I have a few questions:
1. Does anyone else get a weird friction rub on the back/side of your head where the pole is when you flip over, and is this something that can be fixed? Even my instructors feel this – is it a sign of imperfect technique or something that can eventually be ignored?
2. How long is the pole supposed to contact your shoulder as you flip? I'm worried about it hitting my collarbone as I reach the floor on the other side…
3. How do you position your legs? I've usually seen this move done as a pike, but Marlo leads with one leg and then the other one comes to the floor like @3:20 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWSG3CU3SyA It looks like Marlo's version is more stable (although she doesn't seem to be looking at the floor as she goes over) and I like the look of it better – does anyone else do it this way?
Any other tips for someone just learning the move?
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I don't get the rub that you're talking about but did have it rubbing over my collarbone when doing the move with a double cup grip. I think I was pressing my shoulder into it longer than I should have been.
I finally got this move down to a point that I'm comfortable with it last night and was doing it with the Veena/safe grip. That grip made me feel secure enough that I didn't press into the pole too hard and kept it from rubbing my collarbone. Maybe try that grip?
Leg positioning is something that I'll be playing with to see what I prefer but I'm with you – I think Marlo's way looks very pretty!
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for number 2 to avoid hitting my collar bone, when I flip upside down I try to get my butt over my head and bring my chest up to the pole then I feel like it's safe to start going down. At first I was stronger enough to do it that way on one side but on the other side I was a bit weaker and bruised my collar bone area because I wasn't going up high enough before going down. I also use the Veena grip for this
For legs I try to focus on keeping them together once they are both in the air with the inside leg grazing the pole and getting my legs over the lower arm. Then on the way down I open them to catch the pole. I used this girl's tutorial to learn it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84BIXIwXmMw
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So I know this thread is about the flip into a pole sit but I was wondering if someone can give me a few tips on how to get into a split from this flip, esp. on the floor. I end up in this weird half-kneeling straddle split. I think it is about how I land into the split with my lead foot…but..HOW???
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If I’m am SM on my left shoulder the right leg is my lead leg, it stays straight the whole time. I also like to use the Veena grip for any sm flips, you can really slow it down with that grip. I do the flip into splits at 1:35 https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/4f3ec958-0d4c-4272-8fff-4d900ac37250 this is just one way to sm into a drop split.
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I think I got it! Thank you for your help. I was really overthinking which leg needed to be my leading leg as I landed. Now I need to try it higher for a more spectacular drop!
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