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Racheal Ray talks about poling accident
So, I was watching Racheal Ray yesterday and she was talking about a stripper who accidentaly poked a man in the eye https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif at a strip club while pole dancing. She spoke about how the dancer’s stillito heel really caused alot of damage to the man’s eye https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cyclops.gif and how he sued her for $650 thousand dollars and won. This really scares me as I often dance at a regular dance club with poles. No matter how careful I am and watch for clearance before I spin or do tricks, sometimes someone passes by without any care. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_evil.gif One time while I was dancing, this man kept gucking https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_puke_r.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_puke_l.gif at me and kept coming close in my dancing space. I stopped several times to ask him to please go further as I might kick him. He would back up for a few minutes them kept coming closer again. During one of my spins, I knocked his drink out of his hand by accident https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_redface.gif then he finally realize that he was too close. My husband was mad at me https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_mad.gif cuz he had to buy this loser a replacement drink. Now after watching the Racheal Ray show, my pole dancing could cuz us our house. I will take it as an eye opener to be very extra careful. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_salut.gif
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Yes we should always be careful…but freak accidents do happen…. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cyclops_ani.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cyclops_ani.gif It doesn’t take a genius to judge weather or not your too close to someone who is flying around a pole and hey if a dancer tell someone to back up and they don’t!…. I do have to say, I always worry the girl will poke some guy with her shoe when I see them do up close shows for people with their feel all waving about. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif It makes me so angry that as a society we have become so sue happy though. I don’t know weather this guy was being dumb or if the dancer was just careless but come on. If is was a similar situation to yours Joni, where the dancer told the guy to back off and he didn’t well then its his problem……
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Umm, yeah, people really need to take responsibility for their own well-being sometimes. If you stick your hand in a campfire while you are drunk, does that give you the right to sue Budweiser? If you choose to stand too close to Ol’ Faithful at Yellowstone National Park and get blasted off the map, does it mean the park is responsible. I am so tired of lawsuits being placed on businesses and employees due to customer stupidity. I don’t believe that man should have been able to sue the stripper (although I may not know the full story), but he was an adult at a business for ADULT entertainment…not a child in a damn daycare center! People need to watch out for themselves too once in awhile and not just leave it up to proprietors, employees, or fate if they hope to keep their eyesight.
In other news: Sorry, nobody forced the cup to your lips when you spilled scalding hot coffee all over yourself and caused a forty-car pile up…leave McDonalds out of it. You knew the coffee was piping hot, why would they serve it cold or even luke-warm? Simple, basic logic and common sense. Did anyone ever think to sue the DMV for issuing that moron w/ a driver’s license in the first place? lmao
~*Serzi
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Some people really are like moths to a flame – sensible people take one look at the BIG POINTY SHOES and give them a wide berth!!
It’s part of the reason I’m terrified to dance around other people. I try to avoid them but I clatter the sofa/wall/ceiling more often than I’d like and I’ve had a few near misses around the boyfriend and dog. Sometimes I wonder if I’m a bit too clumsy to pole :/
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While doing a spin , I hit my foot on the TV. It’s time to sue SONY. OUCH!
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Serzi brings up alot of good points. I have not met a stripper who danced barefoot (en pointe – yes!), yet we all know they were the big heels. He went to an adult club and hes an adult (or his age makes him an adult), that doesnt mean he needs to get all childish. I agree with Veena, im so tired of the world being so sue happy. I heard some where there are 3 ways people think they are going to get rich – 1. inheritance 2. winning the lottery and 3. SUEING SOMEONE https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif
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The best seats in the house are never at the rail – so don’t sit there. I am shocked he didn’t directly sue the club seeing as the seats were obviously too close to the pole which puts patrons in danger. I am shocked this guy was able to get anything from the dancer.
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I am shocked this guy was able to get anything from the dancer.
All it takes Charley is for a bad judge who has a thing against strippers and pole dancing. Not all judges are bais and fair. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_mad.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_evil.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif -
I know Joni, I am just upset that they didn’t see it as an issue with the club. The club requires the big heels, the club sits the rail too close to the stage – so really it’s the clubs fault not hers.
Totally not fair to sue someone who just doing their job. Maybe we need to form some sort of lega council for pole dancers, lol.
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I agree with Charley on this one. The patron should have sued the club, not the dancer; where I live the neighborhood club has an amazingly small and narrow stage and I know drinks get knocked over and patrons get kicked often. It happened to me once as I quietly informed a dancer that she was on her cycle and might want to change her outfit. A stiletto boot straight to the head as she jumped off the stage quickly. Some thanks, right? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif Anyway, I was under the impression that all dancers needed to be insured for situations like this. I’m guessing this is maybe a voluntary or state regulated issue.
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I know some dancers here in Canada who work freelance. They pay the clubs $60. to be able to dance at the club. They are not insured by the club to perform, only their regular girls are insured. Its up to the freelance dancer to have their own liability insurance.
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I remember seeing an article about this in the newspaper and I thought the judgment was against the club, not the dancer. Lawyers only sue when there is a reasonable chance of getting a pay-off for insurance..or the conversion of a valuable asset–like a house, a property, or a restaurant. I’m not going to stereotype dancers and say it is completely impossible that a club dancer would have nearly three quarters of a million dollars in cash to pay damages, but it seems unlikely. But some states and municipalities do require bars ("dram-shops") to have dram shop and liability coverage. In Illinois there used to be a cap $40,00 per incident if it involves alcohol…not sure about other types of things or what the law is now.
If you dance for money and own a house in a non real property protected state ( anywhere except TEXAS…..FLORIDA), then it might be an issue…or if you have some real cash sitting in the bank…like THOUSANDS…then, yes, insurance is a good idea. There is a reason why OJ Simpson keeps a house in Florida –it’s a judgment proof state–for houses, at least. But given the typical demography of the student, young female dancer putting herself through school…there isn’t going to be an asset to sue against in most cases. But I suppose it is a good idea to ask the club management about liability coverage for dancers anyway.
Nowadays, everybody sues ANY deep pocket they can find. When the 100 people were killed in that bar fire (from the fireworks show) in (Rhode Island)?…they only had a few 100K of insurance–nowhere near enough to compensate the victim’s families. But there was an AMOCO station across the street (now BP) and the gas station guy used to let people just park their cars in his empty lot there while they were watching the bands play in the bar. As a result, the plaintiffs attorneys tried to link Amoco to the lawsuit, claiming the AMOCO corporation was "responsible" for the fireworks, explosion, and the deaths of the bar patrons. It was a very spurious claim, but AMOCO and successor BP spent a huge amount of legal fees getting the claim thrown out. Not to defend BP-AMOCO..ha ha, they are not my favorite folks necessarily…but it is absolutely clear that this ONE time, the palintiffs were hoping for a deep pocket…and BP-AMOCO had BILLIONS…whereas the bar owner barely had 5 bucks to his name…
Joel
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apparently, the dude smacked her butt.
i feel like bouncers should be looking for such dangerous behavior & alert patrons of the risks. and then kick patrons out of club if they continue to act stupid
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apparently, the dude smacked her butt.
i feel like bouncers should be looking for such dangerous behavior & alert patrons of the risks. and then kick patrons out of club if they continue to act stupid
While it makes me feel better to know that the club was sued and not the dancer, I still think that $650,000 is pretty steep for what that moron basically did to himself. There may have not been enough time for the bouncers to apprehend the guy before it happened and it is also possible, with injuries that severe, that the girl reacted more out of surprise than with malicious intent. Whatever, I hope he enjoys the crooked nose, permanent double-vision, and $650,000 he was awarded for being a jackass.
"Boy, I bet you’d stick your head in the fire if I told you that you could see Hell."
~*Serzi
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I’ve been in a couple strip clubs in my time and in the ones I’ve seen, the stripper poles are right beside where the people sit. When I’ve sat by the pole and a dancer came to use it, I would back up because it looked like common sense to move out of the way and not get close??? I don’t understand why the dancer got sued. Should the whole club get sued for not ensuring that there was distance between the dancer and customer???? Health and safefy? The dancer was just doing her job. Weird. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
…. just read the last post.. I’m glad it just wasn’t the stripper that got sued.
Maybe they should make signs by the pole… "caution.. being too close to pole dancer may result in injury" lol.
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it was an effed up lawsuit and i think the club should appeal. (is that the correct legal term??) take it to the supreme court if necessary!!!
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If the man was close enough to get kicked, he was endangering the dancer’s safety … he needs to be sued!
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it was featured on NBC too, apparently it occured during a lap dance, not pole, and the guy’s eye socket was broken https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif . also – it was settled with the company, not the dancer. I would think it would have been a harder case if he walked into somebody’s foot (spinning or not), but the guy was paying her to sit on his lap, so the court said he had an "expectation of safety".
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There have been several lawsuits over the years against strippers. I recall one a few years back regarding a shoe flying off (non-ankle) and injuring a customer. There was one when a gut was injured during a lap dance and also one here in Ohio where 2 strippers went after each other with their shoes.
This one is sketchy as a few stories that I have read have stated different "facts". One said she plain out kicked him purposely. Bottom line is that he has damaged vision for the rest of his life. This happened 2 years ago and ended up suing because the insurance company of the club refused to pay. He has undergone surgery to his face and eyes.
WEST PALM BEACH — A man has sued the Cheetah nightclub and a stripper, alleging he was badly injured when she struck him in the face with her leg or foot while he was seated at a bar.
Michael Ireland was at Cheetah on Sept. 28, 2008, when he was struck "suddenly and without warning" by Sakeena Shageer, according to the negligence suit filed last week by litigator Lake Lytal III against Shageer and Cheetah’s parent company, Casablanca East LLC.
Shageer, 28, – also known by her stage name "Suki" – is a registered exotic dancer in Palm Beach County, records show. In her 2004 application for a permit, she described herself as 5-foot-1 and 118 pounds.
Lytal believes Shageer spun around and struck Ireland in the face with her shoe. Even if it was an accident, he said, Ireland, a local businessman, was seriously injured in the incident at the suburban West Palm Beach nightclub.
Ireland suffered broken bones around his eye and in his nose and now has permanent double vision, Lytal said. Ireland has had one surgery and needs another.
Lytal said he was forced to sue after Cheetah’s insurance carrier refused to pay damages.
"We’re hopeful the club’s insurance company will still do the right thing," Lytal said.
Shageer did not return a call seeking comment. Joe Rodriguez, the registered agent of Casablanca East LLC, also did not return a call. Michael Ireland could not be reached for comment.
Strip club lawsuits that have made headlines have centered on the hazard of sky-high platform shoes strippers frequently wear.
Last year in New York, a man sued after a stripper giving him a lap dance swiveled and smacked him in the face with her shoe. A Broward man sued after a woman’s stiletto flew off during a pole dance, shattering a mirror and cutting him.
Lytal said he has yet to depose the dancer and has no idea what kind of shoes she was wearing. "But we will certainly be inquiring," he said.
According to a Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office report filed after the incident, Shageer acknowledged being atop the bar at the time, Lytal said. But he’s unsure whether she was dancing.
"Although I’m not sure what else she would be doing," Lytal said.
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At Racheal Ray show that I watch said the man sued the stripper and won. Another news article I read said the man sued the club because she lap danced for him flairing her leg around when she accidently kicked him and another said he sued the club cuz she was acting negligent dancing on top of the bar and did a floor spin when she struck him accidenty with her heel. It is a bit all over the pace with the story but the bottom line is she damaged his eye badly dancing with her heel and he is awarded $650.000 for it.
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Oh boo hoo, lawsuits like these give lawyers a bad name! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
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I don’t understand how having to have cosmetic surgery and having your vision f-ed up for the rest of your life is a frivolous lawsuit. This was a forceful blow that broke bone that I really cannot see happening during a lap dance.
The article that I quoted was written 1+ years ago.
The guy is also a roofer so basically he is unable to perform his job.
Again I ask, how is this frivolous?
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I didn’t see the show so I didn’t know the damages. Now that I know more about the facts that figure makes sense. Anyway, I didn’t mean to start an argument on this forum (I’m an attorney myself, I do enough of that at court!) https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif Good for him that he recovered a decent settlement from the establishment where it took place. And I just joined this forum 1 month ago, so I just saw this post. It was so mundane to the other lawyers where I work, no one even mentioned it. I guess there are a lot more things happening in the news now, like the election for example, the miners in Chile, the economy….and I never used the word "frivolous"! I just heard that a man in a go-go bar was hit in the eye with a shoe when the news first broke, I didn’t know the full extent of his injuries, I don’t watch Rachel Rey-she’s a chef turned talk show host! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_chef.gif
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My comments were not aimed directly at you. The whole thread seemed like this man never should have sued. From the old articles it looked like he tried working with Cheetah on the issues and they basically told him too bad. He ended up suing but then they eventually settled out of court knowing that he probably would have received a larger sum had it gone to trial. I am sure that the articles that are current follow the standard sensationalistic syle of writing that is so prevalent lately….. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
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