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Marihuana: for, against or neutral?
chemgoddess1 replied 13 years, 4 months ago 33 Members · 93 Replies
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Nope. It’s a device that uses a ceramic heating element to produce vapor rather than smoke.
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I thought i'd add my 2 cents.
Never been a fan of cigarettes. Never had a puff in my life and i plan on keeping it that way. Pot on the other hand…
The first time i smoked pot, i was 16 and i was really scared that my parents would know somehow lol so i was paranoid but i honestly didn't feel any effect until my 4th time. Now, I smoke pot a couple times a week on and off (i take breaks, sometimes i get sick of it) and i've come across many different kinds and i have to say, different strains have different effects just like different types of alcohol have a different drunk. Sometimes pot makes me anxious, sometimes it relaxes me, sometimes it makes me talkative, sometimes lazy, sometimes it make me munch out and sometimes it even makes me clean my room! Of course it only makes me anxious if i'm already worried about something or there's something wrong so i avoid smoking it when i feel imbalanced, if you know what i mean.
I've never heard of some one getting home after smoking up and beating their significant other like i have heard with alcohol and other drugs. It definitely has SOME affect on your lungs but it depends entirely (if you smoke it) on your methode. Bong, pipe, vaporizer, hot knifing, single hitter, bubbler, apple pipe, joint. Lots of options! Vaporizer being the best for your lungs and to me the smoke tastes like roasted pumplin seeds…for some reason.
I'm all for the use of it as long as you have a handle on yourself. i'd love to at least see it decriminalized because honestly pot heads aren't a burden on society in my opinion, they don't belong in jail for smokin a joint after work.
I find it milder on my body than alcohol and even advil or tylenol. It helps me with lady cramps and head aches and it numbed my throat when i had mono(which was awful…never get mono!). It's helped my insomniac sisters sleep and it's helped someone i know eat more and believe me she needed to. For these reasons i don't have a problem with it myself. i see a lot of good in it. Stoners are sharers
Everyone has their opinion and i'm all for that. As so many have said before me, to each their own 🙂
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Pole Happy- haha hot knifing! those KILL me! And 100% YES on the different strains produce different effects. I tend to stay away from indica…unless I want to be useless. Your response made me LOL.
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yeah this discussion is awesome and SashaMae … I battled with different drugs in highschool as well…. i cleaned up when i was 16 aside from weed……. cuz to me its not a drug.. only reason i only do it on occasions now instead of every night before bed is because i found it was making me so paranoid seeing as i have an anxiety disorder that i cant smoke it all the time because it was doing more harm then good… but yes i hate drinking…. but i dont think theres anything wron with the odd joint or too.. but thats for me personally even if u were to do it every night whatever makes u happy and calm…. I AM PRO CHOICE …. and alcohol is way worse then weed i hate ppl who are drunk they are unpredictable …. ppl who smoke weed are just more cautious 🙂
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Have nothing against it. I am not a Pot Smoker, never really did anything for me. I am an RN and get tested so no drugs for me. My husband RIP had a really bad pot problem and he spent way too much money on it and it made him lazy and boring. He overdid it just like he overdid everything. I would have to say he was addicted. Then he got busted twice and got 2 Felonies. That was way back when 1 joint could get you in a ton of trouble. Caused alot of problems and fights. As far as it being used for medicine? None of my friends in Calif that have Medical Marijuanna cards have anything wrong with them. Anyone can can buy a card there. I have given THC pills to brain tumor patients before and it seemed to work well.
I come from the LSD, Mescaline, Peyote, Pot, Hash and Cocaine Era. Pot is really the least of all evils.
I say to each their own. I like my red wine.
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I am strongly against young people smoking, simply because science and medicine have proven that the health consequences and mental damage it does at that age is particularly serious when the brain is still developing. However, I am kind of one of those people who think you should try everything once, and I've tried it several times and it does nothing for me. I think certain drugs suit certain personalities, and alcohol is my drug of choice 🙂 However one of my best friends is addicted to pot, and while she has admitted that she she has a problem (she can't sleep without it, spends too much money on it etc) that does not take away from the fact that I love her and that she is a beautiful person. I think everyone has a weakness or an "achilles heel" so who are we to judge? However, I think if you know you have an addictive/obsessive or extreme personality, then you should be careful to not get into the habit of regularly taking any drug or stimulant. Everything in moderation 😉
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Well… I'm kinda neutral. I'm almost dealthy allergic to it- so for the most part I really don't want it legalized and smoked on the streets or something. I have friends who I adore who smoke pot and I'm fine with that- I will even suffer the breathing problems it causes for me to hang out with them when they smoke. I don't like people who "hot box" rooms because then it seeps into walls and THROUGH walls and causes some major issues for me (for example one of my neighbors smokes on a none stop basis and it leaks through into the washroom- my laundry comes back smelling like pot and gives me hives and breathing problems so I have to walk seven blocks with my laundry to wash anything now.)
As far as I know there aren't a lot of people who are allergic to it the way I am- I will usually get a sore throat for several days with very light contact. But with stronger exposure It tends make my throat close, cause my heart to mis-beat (something like a murmur and a heart attack? I have no clue but it puts me on the floor right quick), nose bleeds, sevear headaches, yadda yadda. I have to say- being a non-smoker and having to go to the ER for any of that is…… just no good.
So yeah… I'm in the neutral zone. It's great to see my friends unwind on occasions- I really hope that non of them overuse it but I also really would appriciate it if it just didn't flippin exist. (and if lavender didn't exist that would be just peachy. I'm just as allergic to that and for some reason every farmers market some jerk has to be selling dried bundles and have them hung so it can be on the breeze. bleh.) Oh but I'm REALLY against it being used on animals and for kids to smoke it under the age of 17. But I think that's something else entierly. 🙂
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Wow, you Veeners never cease to impress me with your rhetoric, nor your abilities to keep convos on hot button issues civil!
That being said, I have to chime in on this awesome feed! Personally, I tend to lean towards the libertarian belief system. I'm very big on "do as you will, so long as it harms none" idealism. That being said, I stand the same on marijuana use. I believe that it should be legal regardless of whether it's for recreation or health and regardless of whether we prove it to be beneficial or harmful to the user.
I don't believe that moral opinions should dictate laws, what should dictate laws is the preservation of each individual's right to live a free and individually fulfilling life. If smoking marijuana does this for someone, I say the government has no place to keep that from them. In fact, I really don't think that they have much right to regulate it at all. Except in the cases of DUI's, in which I believe should still exist because the dangers caused by driving under the influence can harmfully invade on other people's lives without their consent.
While I have read plenty of research and watched tons of documentaries on the pros of marijuana and personally do believe that it really is a versatile remedy and healer, I don't use that as my argument for legalization. Although, I do think that it's important to share that information so potential or current users could make an educated decision on whether to use it if marijuana were legal, I just don't think it should be neccessary to prove marijuana "good" or "bad" in deciding it's legality.
I mostly think that legalization should be less about the pros/cons and more about the freedom to choose what is right for us and our own bodies.
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With all the talk about legalizing it I thought I should mention another option. Something that was done here in B.C Canada. Decriminalize it.
I live in northern BC and I honestly think I'm one of the like 5 people in my larger city that doesn't smoke. Its just not for me.
With decriminalization if you have under a certain amount on you (don't remember what that amount is off hand) and you are caught by cops it will be confiscated but there will be not charges. There will only be charges if you are caught with an amount that would be deemed as someone who is dealing it.
This is not prefect at all but I wanted to share an alternative to the legal or non legal options. There is still a lot of talk about legalizing pot in Canada and honestly I am for medical marijuana. If Marijuana were to become legal we would probably have teh same restrictions around it as we do for alcohol. Age limits, not smoking in public places.(like how you are not allowed to drink in the streets or will be arrested for being a drunk public nuisance) If the government were to control it it would be safer. What a lot of people don't realized is that dealers are cutting their pot with other drugs like cocaine to make them have a stronger effect. This is dangerous and many people out there buying have no idea.
If it were made legal it could be controlled and made safer and the government could tax the hell out of it and funnel that money into other health programs. (Unlikely but I'm an idealist.)
This is a great discussion and like it has been stated before I love that we are all so polite and respectful about a sensitive topic. There is a lot of great information and opinions in here. 🙂
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I am basically FOR. i live on the island of maui, where meth and oxy are both a huge problem, especially for young people and their families. i don't see mj as a problem. but that doesn't mean that it can't be abused, but it's just like anything, use in moderation. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif
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I'm also for marijuana. Basically I don't understand how it can be construed into something that anyone deserves to be arrested and jailed over. There are plenty of violent and sinister things people should be arrested for, but I do not believe smoking a doobie is one of them. There are perfectly legal stores everywhere that can sell enough alcohol to quite literally kill people, and everyone is ok with that. Cigarettes are filled with additives and toxins, are physically addictive, have been completely proven to cause cancer, and it's ok for them to be sold and consumed. But consumption of something that grows naturally, can be used for medicinal purposes and non-violent (generally) recreational purposes, and where an overdose is essentially impossible, has to be punishable by legal force. Whether or not someone chooses to consume (smoke, eat, drink, or otherwise) marijuana is not really the issue for me. We should have the freedom to choose what goes into our bodies. What I care about is that there are many good people who are put in jail just because they enjoyed marijuana. Lives have been ruined for what I consider to be a less than appropriate reason for such consequences. I'm all for any new legislation, decriminalization or legalization, for that reason.
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I'm all for!!! I smoke it regularly since a young teenager for medicinal (best thing for insonia, depression, lack of apetite, anxiety, etc) and recreational purpuses (surely much better than alcohol!!) … my favorite plant! 😉
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I'm all for!!! I smoke it regularly since a young teenager for medicinal (best thing for insonia, depression, lack of apetite, anxiety, etc) and recreational purpuses (surely much better than alcohol!!) … my favorite plant! 😉
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I saw a comment that included hot-knives! Lol, for anyone interested, spoons work better, your dope doesn't fall off as easily!
Beyond that I wanted to add that I love to stretch while stoned. 🙂 I am more relaxed and therefore can push farther without injury or discomfort. Also, I find it less boring. If you smoke anyway you should totally try it!
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Apost was just put up on OCMA regarding studies with cannabinoids and curing cancer, so of course I started looking for the research. This was the first article I found. Published in 2005 but the original research was done in 1975…yeah, read that again 1975. So we have studies that have shown marked reduction in cancer from THC and yet we still are not even considering this plant as alternative medicine.
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If you are a geek like me or just want your mind blown, google Cannabinoids and cancer. It kinda makes me sick.
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I'm pro-green! I live in California where it's legal for medicinal uses and am a medicinal user myself as well. I have a stressful job & some anxiety issues (in addition to lockjaw & horrible cramps) so it really helps me a ton to be able to come home after work (I NEVER ingest on or before my job) take a few hits out the bong & just chill for a bit. I always have random things going through my head so its difficult for me to just relax and not be running lists & ideas back & forth. I find that certain types/strains have different effects on different people. Some strains/types make me very sleepy and tired (good for before bed!) while other actually help energize me. This being said, I do not smoke cigarettes (the smell makes me sick), I drink very little, don't ingest caffine, and don't take prescription drugs. Marijuana is my own way of both dealing with my mental & physical pain in addition to helping me lead a healthier lifestyle by not ingesting chemicals from prescription & non-prescription drugs.
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@https://www.studioveena.com/users/view/bcb3153c-d89d-11df-ab19-12313b090e12 – spoons eh loll
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It's all politics. The goverment doesn't care whether it helps or not. Hemp is far more useful that lumber, so they want it to stay illegal.
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I am on the fence with this one! I have seen the adverse effects after years of using on a lot of people even in my own family, the mental health system is unable to cope with the amount of people who need help for issues that have come about through not just marijuana smoking but all the other drugs as well, there is enough medical evidence to show the mental damage pot can cause and long term health issues, but each to their own we all have freedom to choose I choose not to firstly because it’s against the law secondly because I loathe any form if mind altering matter, but this is just my own thoughts based on my observations studies and research !
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Hmm- I have admitted to many people even my mormon family THC saved my life.
Story: I only did pills and stolen Rx when I was young (my choice of… enjoyment if I have to admitted choose(to this day)) I never ingested nicotine, alcohol, thc (mormon family -nothing available, easily noticeable if did). When I was 22 yo I was 98 pounds (I'm 5'9") had a handful of emotional problems. When I left home I took my first alcoholic drink, didn't care for it but drank anyway, along with drinking at bars I tried smoking- I LOVE cigarette smoking (I have quit, I hate e-cigs that didn't help me at all).
Long story short: I met up with someone and I smoked weed. I was…. numb enough to forget about my food/body image hang ups to eat. I smoked street and Rx weed and ate it (think that was the best along with tea for me) I hate the high – I'm an upper person. But THC really saved my life to eat and be progressive for myself.
I haven't smoked in years, I hate the smoke smell, the high, too much of an effect when I eat it.
I will always stand on the side of research. I believe researching it more and letting it be legal for those who want to ingest it -like tobacco and alcohol it should be.
I also want a device for smokers to exhale in so I don't have to get "contact headaches" aka "contact high" I wish I enjoyed it as much as my friends do at get togethers. But neurochemistry is different for everyone.
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Paunobs, can you please cite some examples of the research that shows this? Not being a wench here but I have not seen any of this with the exception of the one that was talked about earlier in this thread. BTW, I do have the full text of that earlier article if anyone is interested. I am having issues understanding it though but I was just glossing over it at lunch.
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its my 5th day without smoking, i am very into stopping now, i keep myself busy, it s hard because my boyfriend works in the west , I am basically a housewife home alone. It also give me "creativity" and patience to sew and design the clothes i make (in my head i guess)
I start my pole classes next monday and I want to be 100% in shape for my ladies giving them the best i can
I almost bought some today but I went to rollerblade instead, its only 5 days so far but to me, it means a lot, I am very addicted , not ashamed of admitting it , it s the first step
So the pole keeps me away from the bad stuff, and its my main motivation! Tomorrow will be 6 days, and the day after a week , SO I CAN DO THIS!!
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