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How to prepare for Shoulder Mount?
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I have a Tuesday tips for the shoulder mount… and I'll be adding a shoulder DISmount tips on Tuesday =). here's the link for the sm:
http://aerialamy.com/blog/2011/06/21/tuesday-tips-shoulder-mounts/
One thing I want to emphasize is that while both the mount and dismount take core strength, the MOUNT requires a LOT of arm strength– moreso then the dismount. If you are nowhere near a shoulder mount from the floor (i have this in my tip, and i believe Veena covers it in her lessons) i would work on shoulder dismounts into a shoulder V/straddle, holding that, and then working towards lifting it back up into an invert.
this was my nemesis trick FOREVER, ti's really tough!
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Thanks all and amy, i checked out ur tips a few days ago but will review.
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This move will be going on the back-burner after today. I am way to far from getting it. Will revisit later. Thanks for all your help!
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Hi Lyme Lyte! I just wanted to say that it took me FOREVER to get the sm and the first time I did it a cried and was hysterical…really crazy. I honestly didn't think I'd ever do it! The trick for me was doing Veena's strength routine consistantly…AND I got my first aerial invert the same night. Craziness. I am a loyal Veena grip person as well…it just feels more secure and strong. I hope this helps. Stick with the strength routines and put it on the back burner for a few and then try it from the floor. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
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Thanks fuzzynavel! Speaking of that, might have to have me one tonight!
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A drink that is….not a shoulder mount!
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lol 🙂
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I also have trouble with that one too.
I've watched every single video I could find to master that move but Ican't figure it out. I'm using the cupped grip because it's the only one which really works for me, I get nowhere with the others.
At first I started with just scissors kicks then I tried to bring my knees against my chest as you would when working on the Open V/Chopper. I started being pretty good at that so I thought I was ready to try SM from the floor but…I can't do anything there !!! I mean, if I lie my entire body on the floor it's ok but if I move up just a little bit, I can't move, my butt is stuck on the ground and it feels soooo heavy !
I'm actually better when standing and if I give a bit of momentum I can lift my leg a little bit higher but it doesn't change anything 'cuz I can't lift my butt up and I know this is a key point.
So, I've decide to try shoulder dismount to see exactly what is wrong and the muscles I should engage and I'm actually great at it, i could it over and over but still, it's not enought and I can"t do my SM. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but arrrrg it's driving me crazy !
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A lot of great information here, thank you ladies! I can already see SM being my nemesis for a while, but for me I think it's more about building up my tolerance to the pain. Right now, oh GOD it hurts.
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I got my SM a few weeks ago and it wasnt painful for me. Havent been able to do it since, but working on it!
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I started practicing from the floor today with the cup grip. I could tuck and hold my body parallel to the floor a few inches off the floor for a while, but when I started with my shoulders a little higher I couldn't budge my butt off the floor. Then again it was close to the end of class and I was getting tired already. So far the shoulder pain doesn't bother me. Is worse if I do the move for real? I have heard complaints about rolling over the collarbone. I guess I'll find out eventually some day…
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The pain might be worse for a while when you start shoulder mounting, but it will go away. The talk about "going over the collarbone" is probably in reference to later on, when you are comfortable shoulder mounting, and begin to be able to hold it more and more vertical to the pole, which will expose new areas and nerves again. (I found this out when I took a lesson on shoulder mount hops- I didn't know I had so much more shoulder to desensitize)
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I have been using a twisted grip which I find easiest as I can’t do anything with a cup grip and can do a knee tuck from tip toes (so no jumping) but with slight momentum from one leg. I can tuck easily but I cannot hold the tuck so can’t even begin to think about getting legs extended and to the pole…I’m not sure what to do to get past this tuck phase? I can do a chopper from dead lift so I know I have the core strength, is it my lack of arm strength to do that final pull up to the pole? Help?!
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Well I got this in about 1 month of poling. I continued to do it until I was 30 weeks pregnant. Yes, you read that right. But then I stopped and I returned to pole at 8wks post partum Let me tell you, it is ALL about the internal abs!!! It is the one move I have not been able to do again yet. Grrrrrrrr.
Doing it from the floor is way harder, but if you can do it from the floor, you'll probably b able to execute this move….
Just started working on it this week, so I'll let you know….T.B.C….
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Still working on this bloody move!! Nearly got it today- got my toe to the pole but no foot round yet! Tutor reckons I’ll be on the SM chopper before I am the SM invert as I have got the tuck down but not the extension of the legs to the pole. This move is driving me nuts!!!
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I am no where close either…a few months ago, I wasn't even interested in trying it and even had the thought of maybe I would be fine if I never learned it…the SM scares me about as much as handstands do. But lately I have been thinking about it alot and I am ready to start seriously prepping for it. In class, we have tried a couple of prep moves for it every now and then and I can barely even do that. I just don't get how to do it + scared=no go. sigh.
Hang in there with patience and determination I'm sure youll get it. Maybe a skype lesson from skittles might help you get it. I was thinking about doing that because Ive seen how quickly shes helped others here pick up moves they were struggling with…
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Doing this from the floor should not be harder if you know how to do it. If you're trying to do it from sitting then yes, that is very difficult. Don't forget about all the other muscles needed to perform this move. Just look at the long list of muscles used in the lesson! I strongly suggest using the Veena grip for those who feel the move isn't secure for them.
Also everyone please remember not every move is suitable for all dancers. You can see in the lessons here the SM is listed waaaaay down towards the end in the Advanced section. Strength and control is needed do to this successfully. Never performing a shoulder mount won't make you less of a pole dancer! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_heart1.gif
Here is the lesson, included is how to do this from the floor. https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/4d6bac4d-8044-4fa9-9aaa-66300ac37250
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@hotelchick I'm right there with you sister. I wish every day that I had my 20 something energy and stamina back. 2 days max of pole or zumba or any exercise in general is about all my body can take, its frustrating at times. It takes me 2-3 days to recover between any type exercise. And if I have a really intense pole class, it takes me a week to not feel completely fatigued, sore and weak. I WISH I could pole 3-4x a week, i think I would be so much further along in my poling progress if I had the stamina. I know part of it has to do with my recently discovered low thyroid but still waaaaahhhh!
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Lyme…also work on your hamstring flexibility. The more you can laterally straddel the legs out to the sides the less (pure strenght) you have to use to lift. A little bit like chopper. Be prepared to lose some skin(at first) on your shoulder and dont practice too much.
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I’m so glad someone else feels this way as I still can’t seem to get myself around the sm I get so far up and just can’t seem to hook that foot then my friend who rarely poles comes along and does it right away! I’m so peeved! 🙁 any tips would be great x
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I’m so glad someone else feels this way as I still can’t seem to get myself around the sm I get so far up and just can’t seem to hook that foot then my friend who rarely poles comes along and does it right away! I’m so peeved! 🙁 any tips would be great x
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I got this the 3rd time I practiced it after this thread. Then I needed to practice other grips and I needed a spotter to push me for one type. Luckily I got that grip the next week by myself! You just have to keep trying and some moves take forever! It took my 5-6 months for my handspring. Everyones body is diff. Good luck.https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
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I had been trying to get my SMs consistenly for 5-6 months until Aletha’s workshop. Two things made a major difference, and I immediately got it-and do it 100% of the time now! 1) my pole partner (Black Orchid) said ti envision meat hooks in you chet pulling you up 2) Aletha sweeps the opposite leg of the side ur SMing on from the outside to inside (pictire a large half circle motion while that leg is straight), as u start lifting off the ground, tuck the 2nd leg until ur horizontal, then go into a full “V” or straddle position. If u feel urself slipping down the pole pull ur elbows in together more and pull ur chest up towards ceiling. Note- she has going into SM V’s, not straight legs: if u want to do straight legs, envision crotch to pole last…not toes to pole.
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cupcake–trying to picture what you're saying. If you're shoulder mounting on left shoulder, sweeping right leg from ground around to the right and up, and left leg is tucked?
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If you're taking the lessons sparrow, it sounds like the Shoulder V lesson. I'm pretty sure cupcake meant she sweeps the opposite leg you mount on. I don't think she uses the same leg of the shoulder the pole is on, and sweeps out to the opposite side and up? That would seem harder. In the lesson the "lead", or what cupcake calls the "sweeping" leg is the opposite side of the shoulder that the pole is on. So if the pole is on the right shoulder, the left leg leads.
https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/4d6fa127-dab8-4370-949f-629d0ac37250
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