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HAVE YOU SEEN THIS 8 YEAR OLD POLE PERFORMER???
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I would just fear this video circulating on facebook. We all "get it" that poling and stripping are two totally different things. Others are not as enlightened, and I would hate to see a weird sping to this whole thing.
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OMG, she was amazing…and less than a year on the pole, I really can't imagine. That pheonix she did was HUGE! And splits galore, the girl is strong and flexible. The only thing that gives away that she hasn't been at it very long is a small lack of control in some of those bigger moves. Once she nails that, which I'm sure she will, she will be unstoppable.
How long until we see children's divisions in pole competitions, or pole dance in "regular" kids dance comps? 🙂
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As the chair of the technical comittee for Pole Sports who is hoping to get pole into the Olympics I believe that at some point it will be teenagers competing in the pole olympics and they will probably begin training as young children just as other olympic sports do.
I also know that perverts will find a way to twist anything they can into something sexual. There are sick individuals who watch childrens gymnastics for just this reason!
But I can't explain what it is about this video that felt a bit uncomfortable to me? I am not opposed to children pole dancing or taking classes if someone is trained to teach them but something just felt off when I was watching this. In some way she just looked too "adult like" doing it?
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I wanted to express, as a dance teacher ( and a girl who was klutzy in sports but discovered an early nredy age that she could DANCE) that I am not comfortable with the idea that the first place we go to when we see young girls being physical is the "pervy" place, even when we say it out of concern. I don't think we should be contributing to an atmosphere that takes away the innocent joy that children naturally feel when they accomplish something expressive and physical.
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As I stated in one FB post earlier, we all need to remember that this girl is from Russia. Things regarding training, sports and even the way the human body is viewed is totally different than here "across the pond".
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Black orchid – I do agree with you. Sadly the world is a dangerous place and concerns like that are needed. I wish it was not like that.
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I think that if we actively challenge restrictive views we can change the way society thinks. I'm not for accepting a POV that then allows us to contribute to a line of thinking that restricts and shames young dancers ( and their parents). I mean common sense ( age-appropriate music/costumes) is one thing but being concerned that she got to perform at all ( or that it might be seen by others)….no. And again, this comes from me ( yes, a non-parent) having fought that battle to express myself without judgement as a kid AND as an adult instructor now who wants girls to revel in their own physical expression without exploiting themselves. This performance was almost physical tricks and childish sass…nothing provocative at all, other than the pole. She practically de-sexualised the thing.
The only other thing I'll say is that while I'm glad she got the opportunity to do a showcase, but I wish she hadn't been performing with adults. Not for any reason but a selfish one: a kid will steal the show no matter what they do 😉 I'd love to see a youth aerial sport showcase.
Finally…she IS from Russia? ha ha! Oh those Eastern Europeans and their starting young uns off early.
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If you watch children dancing a ballroom or Latin style dance, they look like tiny adults. It's dance! I don't think her dance was inappropriate. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
If this little girl is HAPPY pole dancing at this level then great. There are people who love to train and perform at a high level, regardless of chance of injury later in life. It's up to her and her parents/guardians to decide how hard to push.
As a parent, I would love to see my kids enjoy a sport or dance…but I would not encourage them to spend their childhood training.
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I'm not saying it is inappropriate and I am not sexualizing it. But I think Veena actually hit on it…even in ballroom dancing they look like little adults. I don't know if I care for the idea of children looking like little adults and I did think when I saw it that if I hadn't been told it was a child I may have not noticed it was a child. I think I prefer that children look like children.
Not a big deal but just wanted to throw a different perspective in there as this vid just didn't excite me for some reason… {{shrug}}
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I'm just really jealous and a bit depressed after watching that haha because I know she has years of developing her pole style and moves and if she can already do all that at her age I can only guess what she'll be like when she's in her 20s! And here I am struggling to aerial invert properly 😛
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I understand that Ollie, I know it's hard not to feel jealous, but think of this……Pushing yourself, so hard can often result in injury and pain later in life!! As I said before, some people live for training and love it, that's great, if it makes them happy.
But, as people who love pole dance, we should also be sure to send a message that there is no need to do moves or push to a point where you may suffer for it later on in life! Nothing wrong with moderation and enjoying your pole journey. I think many pole dancers feel that if they are not doing "xyz" then they are not truly a pole dancer, but to me that's just not the case!!! I would love to see more of us be happy with where we are in our own journey, myself included…..
She did a terrific job, and I think she would feel awful to hear the "big" girls where talking about her performance being inappropriate, I would hope instead she could see how supportive we can be…… https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_flower.gif
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The total opposite may also happen. Many who are brilliant at gymnastics at a young age lose their edge when they hit puberty because their body changes so drastically and they may end up top or bottom heavy, completely throwing off their balance.
All I know is that the reverse grab she did at about a minute into her routine floored me…it also scared me because I honestly thought she was going to lose it and fly across the room!
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Well I guess I'll just leave this thread with my opinion intact. Another thing to consider when uploading anything to the internet, is that others will talk. I dont think I've said anyhing that could upset her. I dont feel my concern is appreaciated here. That is ok, I have my way of looking at things and others have theirs.
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Is it too late for me too take up gymnastics or cheerleading ” & compete”? Im pretty sure they will tell me im 20+ yrs too late, im just saying maybe there should be an age limit, I showed my mom the vid and she said she would hurt me if I put her grand daughter on display like that! Of course as a parent your proud but at what point do you draw the line. Im going to be supportive of anything my daughter wants to do, as long as its not going to hurt her! 🙂
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Is it too late for me too take up gymnastics or cheerleading ” & compete”? Im pretty sure they will tell me im 20+ yrs too late, im just saying maybe there should be an age limit, I showed my mom the vid and she said she would hurt me if I put her grand daughter on display like that! Of course as a parent your proud but at what point do you draw the line. Im going to be supportive of anything my daughter wants to do, as long as its not going to hurt her! 🙂
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Steffie, I don't think you said anything wrong. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif If I was speaking to you I would have addressed you. I was just speaking my mind too. I was not addressing anyone on this thread, only Olle in the beginning. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_flower.gif
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Its okay 🙂 I dont feel attacked or anything. But I dont have more to say about the topic 🙂
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Maybe it's somewhere in this thread but I didn't see it……can someone tell me where I can see this video? I'm dying of curiosity. Thanks!
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PoleFeline, here's the full video 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZRA_BHIaeYk
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Thanks for posting the link again, GledreB.
Just watched it, Wow!
My two quick thoughts are:
1) I read she trains in Russia. The Russians are leaders in dance. The U.S. is a leader in dance as well. Wondering if we have any star children training but we just haven't seen them yet? Russia may be leading the way on this one. But you never know? We may also be seeing what will happen if the Olymics accepts pole dance. I support what we see in this video. This 8 year old is doing what pole dance is all about: combing-dance, gymnastics, theatrics on a vertical pole. She is super talented. Can I be her when I grow up?
2) Boy….now after watching that little Superstar….I feel really big and clunky https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_flower.gif.
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I loved her performance, and I agree a little bit with what everyone here has said. Poling is just dance and this little girl is fantastic with great strength and flexibility. However, in our country, the pole has become a sexualized object. Men from all around have seen some of the objects of their sexual fantasies twirl around the pole, so that’s how they they will always view poling. Unfortunately, as much as we would love to make everyone look at it as a sport, that isn’t going to happen with everyone because of poling history in America. We may be able to get a few people to see that it takes a special strong individual to be able to pole, and that it really is a skill, but many are going to only see it as they have always seen it, as an object used to seduce men. Adding an underaged child to that mix in this country would be a pedophiles dream and cause a firestorm of criticism. She is great and we all know it, but unfortunately everyone doesn’t look at poling like we do.
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Wow she's amazing. She's my new favourite pole idol! I can't find anything inappropriate about her or her performance at all. It's totally appropriate. I see more inappropriateness with kids in jazz, hip hop or other kinds of dance! 🙂
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She’s amazing…definitely puts me to shame. 🙂 I would totally share her video to fb if it weren’t for the risk of someone with the wrong intentions. She is a great example of what sheer strength and ability it takes to pole is…nothing dirty or sexualized about her routine at all. I hope she has a great time of poling ahead of her!!
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the owner of the studio i train in has a very flexible daughter who wants to pole but her mother is sending her to gymnastics instead because she says she's too young to pole. She wouldn't be taught to dance sexy but her concern is that pole dancing my build her body while she's growing…she says it's better if she starts pole dancing at 12 and not at 8. my question is..doesn't the training for gymnastics do the same?? If there already are girls around the world poling at 8 years old then there's nothing wrong with it, right? has anyone heard anything about pole dancing not being good for kids or why it would be better for them to train doing something else till they are 12? I'm sure this person is not worried about the issues about it being sexy but more related to the way it shapes your body.
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She is awesome and is performing like a pro…. amazing performance! I won't be surprised if one day she becomes one of the top World Pole Dancers…. thanks for the link!
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