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  • Flag lift?

    Posted by roxiiee on April 21, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Been trying for a while but still can’t get myself into the right position since I haven’t had any proper lessons I can’t figure this one out.. Anyone have any tips or no of any tutorials that would help?

    Mary Nightingale replied 12 years, 8 months ago 14 Members · 26 Replies
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  • Saphyre

    Member
    April 21, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    Do you have Veena's lessons? It is in the Advanced section.

  • roxiiee

    Member
    April 21, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    Yes I do! By flag lift I mean into brass monkey 🙂

  • roxiiee

    Member
    April 21, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    It might be called a flag invert actually not lift

  • RockNAngel

    Member
    April 22, 2013 at 2:25 am

    If you find any pointers… please pass on to me… I have been working on this for months… 🙁

  • roxiiee

    Member
    April 22, 2013 at 2:29 am

    Yeh of course! 🙂

  • littlelindsay

    Member
    April 22, 2013 at 5:49 am

    it's a tough one! For me, I start in the flag facing down and as I raise my straight leg I lower my head (which helps you "tip over") while at the lame time looking up to watch my leg hook into the brass monkey. Keep at it!

  • Krista Bocko

    Member
    April 22, 2013 at 6:30 am

    try to keep your hips facing the floor and not allow them to open toward the pole.

  • Frankline

    Member
    April 22, 2013 at 6:34 am

    i m also struggling with this one but emotioncatcher has a good tutorial for it on youtube. It shows how to grip the pole the right way. it s really helpful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ_Iyaf6FiY

  • roxiiee

    Member
    April 23, 2013 at 3:05 am

    Thank you ladies!
    Ur right it is a tough one!
    Thanks frankine! That is really helpful wish I was as flexy as her!

  • PlatinumATL

    Member
    April 23, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    this is also called a flag flip by some people and its quite hard.  be sure your lower arm/elbow is jammed into your side or tummy- it is essential to the lift. also start with your head below your hips if possible. its ok to stand on your tippy toes to achieve that. 

  • roxiiee

    Member
    April 23, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    Thanks platinum 🙂 I tried last night I seemed to get alot closer then my usual attempts!

  • Laura KittyCat

    Member
    April 24, 2013 at 9:18 am

    When i have tried to teach this move ive noticed that people tend to try to keep their body horizontal too much. Its like a press handstand where the hips have to come up before the legs. Try holding a flag handstand coming out of a brass monkey (can be done from a shoulder mount or dangerous brian) and lowering down slowly to the flag position. Working things going the opposite way helps build up more muscle to get it. Good luck 😀

  • Veena

    Administrator
    April 24, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Here's a look at how I do the Flag invert. Head down, hips up, then legs open to V, then lift bending the bottom leg. By opening into a V with the legs, them bending the lower leg you'll make the lower body "lighter" for lifting. So the wider the V legs the easier you can make the lift. Also at a certain point you really use the arms pushing hard so be sure the top arm is gripping high enough into the arm pit. The longer your limbs the more challenging this move will be.  https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/4eef9c5f-9318-4a74-93be-071b0ac37250 

  • roxiiee

    Member
    April 24, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Thanks kittycat and veena! I think ur right about long limbs that’s definitely me haha and I’m not so flexible in my v split! Trying to work on it but its a slow process!

  • PlatinumAni

    Member
    April 24, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    You are not lying Veena hauling long legs up is tough. I also agree that you really have to push through the bottom arm far more than you think!

  • poledanceromance

    Member
    April 25, 2013 at 3:12 am

    For whatever it’s worth, I don’t think I’ll ever get this move. I’ve been working on it for over a year. I’ve taken it to several “pro” instructors who all gave me great tips but I still can’t get up there. I’m starting to believe the flag lift is one of those moves that some people just pop up into it no problem and for other people….not so much lol. So if you really aren’t getting it, forgive yourself…I’m accepting that my body does not want to do this one, or at least I’m trying to accept it.

  • roxiiee

    Member
    April 25, 2013 at 3:22 am

    Yeh some moves are not for everyone I hope that isn’t the case for me I’d love to crack this one!

  • RockNAngel

    Member
    May 13, 2013 at 11:52 pm

    I love that you admit not all moves are for everyone!  I have been on this one for WAY too long… someday I hope to get it but trying not to kill myself getting there…

  • Mary Nightingale

    Member
    May 14, 2013 at 3:14 am

    I can do it with taking a swing, but not from strength alone. You don’t need plenty of strength when you swing into it, just remember that you should swing the leg sideways, and not backwards.

    I loved the suggestion regarding going from Brass Monkey to flag slowly, it might help me understand what muscles to use to lift my butt over the shoulders, and sounds like a good strength exercise in general.

  • zoeyxxxx

    Member
    May 21, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    I still have not got this so trying the oposit brass monkey to flag hopefully working to get bk up in the end

  • Mary Nightingale

    Member
    May 22, 2013 at 6:15 am

    Well I tried it yesterday, and I couldn’t hold the pole in that position well enough to unhook my leg, I felt I was going to fall down and nothing in my hold gave me any contra. Any tips?

  • mizzli

    Member
    May 25, 2013 at 11:49 am

    @MaryMinx you need to make sure your elbow of your bottom arm (you need to move it up the pole) is out ready to catch your body in order to hold the flag.  It's a bit scary when coming down into it but just unhook one leg and slowly lower yourself onto your elbow of the bottom arm.  I'll see if I can get my video thing working to post one up.

    My problem is flag lifting up, my body is too horizontal and I can't seem to move myself up vertically.  I don't know if it's a strength issue or I'm a bit scared I might miss the pole and go straight over? :/ Does anyone know of any conditioning training to help lift the body vertical? 

  • Mary Nightingale

    Member
    June 6, 2013 at 7:14 am

    Mizzli just saw your reply after watching you flag lift vid lol
    I’ll try what you’ve suggested, thanks!

  • Mary Nightingale

    Member
    June 6, 2013 at 7:14 am

    Mizzli just saw your reply after watching your flag lift vid lol
    I’ll try what you’ve suggested, thanks!

  • mizzli

    Member
    June 7, 2013 at 5:41 am

    @MaryMinx Good luck! Hope it helps, if I discover something else that helps with the lift,  I'll post it up! 🙂

    Oh, just came to me! another exercise I did inbetween was controlling the decent from a brass monkey to a flag or cross ankle release to flag.  When I (sort of) got that, then I would try to lift back up to a brass monkey.  That is basically the same movement as a flag lift. 🙂 

    CAR to flag https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/51b1b5e8-4e68-491f-b899-12f90ac37250

    brass monkey decent then back up – not a great example but its the only vid i have of a first attempt. I'll try to film another one – https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/51b1b713-bd3c-4582-b6e7-12f90ac37250

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