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Deadlift Elbow Stand Help
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i had no idea that elbow stand and forearm stand refers to something different. i´m really curious now ^^ can´t wait to watch your video veena
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Can someone check out my form? I just uploaded a video to my profile ("elbow stand deadlift?") and I'm not sure if I'm having the same problem.
I wrote this in the description but I'll copy it here:
Am I doing this right? Should my elbows be directly underneath my shoulders (bent at a 90 degree angle) while I lift up? They look like they're too bent to me and I thought that might mean that my weight is too far behind me and I'm falling into the pole, but my legs are already up before my back actually hits the pole and my hips appear to be stacked, so I'm not sure…
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^ Yeah, HollySatine, it looks more like a headstand than forearm/elbow stand. Your biceps should be parallel with the pole, shoulders/elbows aligned, with hands flat on the floor (see my pic below).
Also I agree with deadlifting into it is way harder than headstand or handstand deadlifting. I lead with 1 leg too. Actually I agree with Tine007, I think only contortionists or super bendy ppl can do this massive task! Hahhaha! I've only seen it twice in person and well… they were both contortionists.
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Okay…so in looking for examples of a deadlift in action, I found this one of Felix Cane (super bendy!) and she does a lift at 1:57 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5G1jRJo9ek&list=FL5PM1t28sq000H6d5N0V3Pw&index=72. She starts out closer to the pole with her hands wraped around the base, but her biceps do not appear to be parallel with the pole as she lifts her legs – so I guess my question is, is this also still improper form, and does it really matter if they're not exactly parallel during the lift as long as you take the weight off your head and align everything once your legs are up? Is there a danger in this?
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The beginning of Felix's deadlift was improper form with arms bent for a split second. She used the pole as an extra balance point to deadlift up. But after, she used proper form as she straightened her arms up and looked to the floor.
The only real danger I can see is falling on your head or face. If there's no pole, then you'd just fall flat on your back. LOL!
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Felix has her head placed down in the moment she lifts, so it's a head/elbow stand lift. Her elbows are shoulder distance apart, so I think her form is correct. She takes the head off the floor into forearm stand after.
For the elbow (head) stand, the head is close to your hands and your upper arms are not completely vertical (and i checked in Veena's lesson, she does it the same way https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/f7c4b034-b91e-11df-856f-001b214581be 🙂 ). This way the center of gravity is in the middle of the triangle formed by your clasped hands and two elbows. When lifting the head, the weight needs to go back over your elbows and they become vertical.
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agree w/Tine.. she starts in a head/elbow stand to deadlift legs and raises her weight to just forearms when she is doing the backbend. it's correct form– it's how I do mine every time =) umm minus the um… Felixy flexy.
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just saw your video on youtube veena! it shows very good the difference. love the bodywaves you did in the elbow stand!
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Thank you,Veena!! Great demo! 🙂 And your handstand is rocking, you hold it forever!!!
Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmIciddJyPY
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Thank you Veena for that demo! I had no idea such a little question would be so complicated! Thank you all for all the videos you have made and tips. This has now taken #1 priority for me in training. lol
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Thanks for posting Tine! Glad you guys liked it https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_heart1.gif
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Aaaah… No wonder I've been finding it so hard to do the elbowstand. I've been attempting to do a forearm stand instead the whole time, which as various people have pointed out, isn't usually possible as a deadlift.
I do hate having any pressure on my head though, even a tiny bit. I guess I need to just get used to that, instead of bailing every time my head touches the ground.
Thanks for the clarification all 🙂
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If you want to see a study in how much of a difference an inch further or closer makes…
https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/4e5ab69e-3cb8-4eab-b511-35c90ac37250
Bounced onto the pole on that first one. Ooops. LOL. I've now got the distance pretty much down, for me, my knuckles must be right about at the base of my pole and then I can roll up/lift with control all the way.
Miraine, I'm the same way about having pressure on my head. Hate it!!! I have head down until my legs are lifted, then I raise onto forearms so my head's free.
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So I tried Felix's elbow stand lift to forearm stand today during improv dance. It's actually easier than I thought it would be! Was able to slide my legs and deadlift up when my head was straight, barely touching the ground. Then pushed up into forearm stand, looked at the floor, and bent to scorpion.
I'm still wondering if it's possible for polers to deadlift straight from forearm stand. lol! PaulettePole's original question.
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Do you think it's possible to lift into an elbow stand on a desk, from standing/sitting in front of it? Probably not a deadlift, but with kicking up?
Everytime I brainstorm (= daydream) at work I'm thinking it would be pretty cool if I could do that – in the office, when no one's watching https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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Absolutely possible! Gymnasts do this move all the time into a handstand usually, but the principles of doing it into an elbow stand are the same. It is called a press handstand. 🙂
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@RoseMay – Heehee, the mental image of you furtively looking around to check there's no-one near by then hopping up into an elbow stand on your desk at work is so funny 😀 I love your new word for daydreaming… Next time someone asks me why I've got nothing done all day, I shall remember: brainstorming 😉
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Today way my youngest 3rd birthday so before we celabrated I snuck a workout in! Had to let you guys know I tried deadlifting from a forearmstand and got it!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gifIts not pretty and its harder than hell, but I did manage it, sooooo much harder than with the head on the floor. I'll post the vid tomorrow. its kinda funny and I left it uncut you can hear all the huffing and puffing. LOL
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wooow! i´m very impressed veena! i´m very curious about your video!
i´m really scared of forearm stands because i always think i might fall on my face =) i always start with a elbow stand and then change to a forearm stand. think i have to work on this
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Haha Veena! You go girl, with your huffing and puffing bad self! 😉 Be the first (female) poler. The only other ones I saw do this were David Owen and Isaac Pena. It’s hard!!!
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LOL it's a real fear to have Emotion, I did come down on my head. Was not hard, just had my arms give out, and was like slowmoition. lol Here is the video https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/4ea16a53-21c8-4750-836a-1bdc0ac37250
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seems like it didn´t hurt when you came down as you still smiled afterwards 🙂 that´s good to see!
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wait – I thought the forearm stand and the elbow stand were the same thing?
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If you watched my demo video Holly you would see the difference. There are many names too so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmIciddJyPY&feature=mh_lolz&list=LLup79MtZnWP_SCAHeVlmzdQ
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Wow I'm dumb. I had watched the video while I was doing other things and missed the fact that they were different (I'd assumed the elbow stand was a variation of the headstand and didn't notice that it had it's own name). Thanks!
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