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Canadian competitions?
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Finally some talk on more competitions/showcases in Canada! I was just talking to several people at my studio as well as poling friends about the fact that there seem to be no other competitions or showcases except MPDC. I have nothing against that competition, other than the fact that it is the ONLY one, and many people I know would be just too intimidated to participate in it as a first event.
Piglet, if I can help at all with anything, I am willing…although I don't have any knowledge of how to go about arranging anything! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
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i was approached by a friend of mine to organise one … (big international compagny but i wont say the name)
after looking at the financial aspects of the thing…they gived up! We turned the thing upside down to make it work, but of course they wanted to do it for money
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Thank you Sarah! I'll be in touch!
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LOVE the toronto idea! I live about an hour away from T.O. and I've just started out about a year ago but this whole east/west thing and the toronto showcase would be a great motivator to push myself! I hope it works out and that I can eventually participate!
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I agree with Sarah, I have nothing against MPDC but it is very intimidating. Even their amateur divisions seem like pros to me. I just want something near me (not the other side of the country) that I actually stand a chance of getting into!
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Hi All! Somone directed me to this forum and I have to say, I am really shocked and hurt by Olivia's comments. I am not sure if anyone realizes that I run this competiton soley because of my passion for pole dancing. I have never charged a fee for entering, I paid for flights and accomodation for the first year and lost thousands of dollars so I sitll ran the competiton the second year but could nto pay for extra's. This year, I am paying for accomodation again because I want to make it easier for the girls that are coming from out of town. I got Xpole as a sponsor so I am hoping to not lose money again this year. I do not understand how anyone can call me greedy? Running a competiton takes a lot of hard work, money and organization. I have a 1.5 year old baby and two studios, I don't have a lot of extra time on my hands but I do it because of my love of Pole Dancing and the need for a non biased platform for eveyone to compete on. I have judges from other studio's to keep everyone involved and keep it fair, so I do not even use it to exclusively promote my own studio. It hurts me to the point that I feel like I shouldn't even bother next year. I have never denied anyone to be a part of this competition. The requests I have had from people are to host a Miss Pole Dance (insert province), please send me all the info. Of course I am going to charge a fee if someone wants all the work that I have done for years handed to them on a platter. If anyone wants to hold a competition under a different name and send them to Miss Pole Dance Canada, I would never say no! I want to find the best pole dancer in Canada to represent our Country to the rest of the world. I trademarked the name so that no one could just take it and use it. Do you think Studio Veena would want me opening a studio with their name for nothing? Anyone can run any competition they like, I am not stopping anyone, you just can't call it Miss Pole Dance Canada. Olivia, if you have any more concerns, or anyone else for that matter. Instead of saying hurtful things on a public forum, I would be happy to answer any questions or concerns you might have. Thank you, Tammy Morris
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i dont know what s sooo wrong about what i could have said… other than anyonw can do a competition with another name than "miss pole dance canada" just call it miss pole fitness canada,
check out what your people were arguiing about … the trademark ect ect , maybe they shouldnt post on a public forum
"The organization has paid tens of thousands of dollars to protect their idea and their content in the court of law. When you spend that kind of money, you have lawyers on retainer to enforce it."
i mean…. lol…. this is too much …
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AGAIN i ve read the post i ve wrote and i dont understand how can it upset anyone… i didnt said any hurtful thing
i am just following the discussion and posting my opinion about the legal aspects of the trademark name (wich they seem to push a lot and is unrealistic )
i think you are doing a great job promoting pole fitness and i didnt said the opposite 🙂
Now tammy instead of accusing me to say hurtful things on a forum, please read what your representative are arguing about , this doesnt help to get good comments! It almost means WE RUN POLE FITNESS IN CANADA AND NO ONE can run a competition…
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@oliviaaa
It may seem ridiculous but that's how all trademarked names work. That's how companies, like xpole, can sue those that use their product images, name, and reputation without actually using their product. It's an business integrity thing and if you don't start when the company is small then you have no chance of protecting it when/if it grows big.
The owner of the studio I worked at trademarked her studio name and when she found out another studio on the other side of the country had just opened and was going by that name she made them change it. It seemed a bit extreme to me since she's only in Seattle, but she made the point that if she ever wishes to expand beyond that to other cities or states (which I doubt will happen but you don't want to limit your possibilities) that is would be confusing to customers. Especially if the two studios focused on different aspects of pole, or one ended up being kinda shady.
That's also why Burger King in most of Australia is Hungry Jacks. A small business already had the name trademarked so even though the Burger King corporation is huge and the business was one little store. It was their first, so they had to change their name. That how trademarks work.
They never said, nor implied, that no one else can run a pole fit comp in Canada. They're just saying no one else can run a non-sanctioned "Miss Pole Dance Canada ______." Like you said, they can run one and call it anything else (like The Most Awesome Pole Champ Canada…ok not that, but that's be a rad title to have on your pole resume) , but as you also noted, competitions cost a lot of money, which is why not many other comps have popped up yet. Hopefully more people in Canada will begin to host competitions and showcases, but it takes time for people to plan and fund them.
As for how your comments could be hurtful. You might not have meant anything in a hurtful way, but tone is difficult to convey accurately in written form and what seems like stating opinions to you can easily be seen as abrasive to someone reading it.
@ Everyone
Good luck with the comps/showcases that are in existance and those that are in the planning process. Canada has some great talent and I'd love to have more opportunities to support it (as well as an excuse to visit my birth country)! Happy Poling 😀
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"i did do not have a positive opinion on mpdc in the past, but looking at the organizor argument on here and its not getting better eighter.
Can I ask you why you did not have a positive opinion on Miss Pole Dance Canada?
Oh and I am the orgainzer and I have not argued a thing until my last comment so I think you are talking about the organizers of Miss Pole Dance Alberta and that is completely separate.
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Sorry, that last question and comment was directed at Olivia..
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YAY!!! About time you got in here Tammy~~~Welcome!!!!
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Thanks Reenie:)
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oh and thank you Freethesun for that very educated answer!
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Just wanted to give everyone an update. I've been working on securing a venue and I have a meeting with a club owner on Tuesday to hammer out a date for a Metro Toronto Showcase! YAY!
I'm so excited!
Peggy Jo.
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Yay @ Piglet! 🙂
Please do let me know if you need help with anything 🙂
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The Toronto Pole Dance Fitness Showcase 2011 is born! Sunday October 16th, 2011 @ 7pm
$10 at the door
$10 to submit a video along with the required registration form the video needs to display your skill level, it doesn't have to be your performance piece. All videos need to be submitted by August 31st.
mailto:tpdfs2011@gmail.com
You can use google documents for this or a utube link.
More deets to follow.
So far we have a facebook page and the submission form is on the page. Our website link isn't up an running as of yet but we are accepting submissions and payment via paypal.
We are happy to send the form to anyone who would like to participate please email us at mailto:tpdfs2011@gmail.com
Best,
PEGGY JO & SHANYN
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That is awesome news!!! 🙂
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Thank you MNW!xo
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wow piglet congrats this is amazing !
and to mpdc why do i dint have a good opinion about the competition: just the fact that you are twisting the rules for the crown means a lot! Its all a marketing thing 😉
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Why bother arguing about this @oliviaaa? I just dont see what purpose there is, I have noticed on both facebook and on here you have made negative comments reguarding miss pole dance canada. Why make such a big deal about something so ridiculous! Tammy Morris is a wonderful organizer and has put everything she can into this event. I dont see how any can think that what Tammy is doing can be negative, she is hosting a competition designed to show the world that Canada has amazingly artistic and beautiful pole dancers and that pole fitness is a wonderful thing… That being said we should be happy for our current MPDC winner Crystal on her adventure and invitiation to Rio this year to represent our country. Crystal is amazing and it is yes unfortunate timing that she will be away for the competition but we should all be very proud our country will be making appearance. You act as though you are trying to show our country is so great, and you seem as though you are trying to show your pride in this country, well have some respect for the talents and opportunities Crystal has received. I am so happy for Crystal and would never ask for her crown to be taken away or for her to have to miss going to the worlds because the timing of MPDC. I am honoured our country will be representing. I am a proud Canadian and have a true passion for pole dancing, and feel that it is all in the art and best interest of pole dancing. I do not feel a reason to be negative about anything other studio owners have done, as it is important to understand we all have the same passion for pole. Just my two cents….
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Well said robyness.
I am just so excited that Canadian events are starting to crop up, and I am excited to see all the variety in types of events. There needs to be something for everyone, and everyone has different tastes or needs in a competition or showcase. I for one, work in a profession by day and am excited that some of the newer competitions are trying to put forth a clean image for pole dancing. Not to say that there shouldn't be competitions that bring out the more 'exotic' flavours of pole dancing, just saying that I want to compete, but because of my professional obligations, I have to be careful about where I do so, and I am glad that there are competitions that are in-line with my needs. I am also glad for the variety, because even if I don't see myself competing in a certain contest or show case, I am more than happy to watch or support every event, whether in person or in spirit.
It makes me sad that there seems to be so much politics in pole. I was drawn to this sport because of the togetherness and the way that women (and men now too) of all walks of life can pull together and support eachother. I find it really sad that what I feel the spirit of pole is, is being challenged by some members on a forum that is supposed to unite people who are supposed to share the love of pole.
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Woo! Excited!
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i have opinions. They re not negative they are realistic. To me mpdc is all sketch and im not the only one thinking it but of course for "the politic" of pole no one will speak out for X reason . But i don t care , it is what it is. I dont think its negative to post your opinion when they asked for it .
it is only logical that the winner have to be there… yes im happy for crystal ect ect … but rules are rules, if they want this competition to be taken seriously, then don't twist them
And of course I am the bad not nice olivia bouhhh….. but hey we all need one big mouth in the bunch, and thats me 🙂
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