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ACE is no joke!!
Posted by PaulettePoles on January 18, 2012 at 4:25 amI just started my ACE training. Was just wondering if any of you certified ladies out there had any tips. Im working through ACE's Essentials of Exercise Science for Fitness Professionals. I feel like I'm in nursing school all over again. A lot of the concepts I am familiar with already as a registered nurse, but I can see where this would be some heavy duty info for the average person! Having seen and started the curriculum, hats off to all you ace certified trainers! This is a lot of info and a lot of knowledge to soak up. Enjoying it thus far, but would appreciate any tips any of you who have ben through the curriculum would have to ad. Thanks in advance!
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Me too!!! I'm going to start this semester if I have any extra time – if not, definitely this summer. I'd also love any tips. Best of luck with your training!!! 🙂
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Haha, I got my materials this summer. Read through that book twice. Haven't picked it up in months. I need to get back in gear. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif
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I also feel the same way Paulette. Some of the information is familiar, but it is still alot of info despite me having majored in biology and taken a course in phlebotomy. I never did take anatomy though…
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I was going to get my materials soon. I haven't really studied any related subjects–am I going to be able to get through it??
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As with ANY subject, if you study hard, you will be fine. My method for studying it has been this: read the chapter, type up all the definitions, read the same chapter AGAIN, do the exercises in the back of the book, move onto the next chapter and repeat. Now that I am through the 1st book I plan on going through all the definitions, exercises and flash cards to really get the concepts before I move onto the group fitness book. I will do the same thing with the group fitness book.
One thing that helped me in college to understand things like the metabolic pathways was to take a dry erase board and just draw them over and over and over again. Flash cards can help too. It might be helpful to print out the different anatomy pix, laminate them, then label them over and over again with a dry erase pen. I tend to be a crazy studier, so you may find my method excessive…https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif I truly believe that if you can draw it and label it, you wil learn it better. Just trying to memorize things isn't as effective (it will fall out of your head faster that way.)
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I like what ACE offers! I've been certified through them for about 10 yrs! Here is what I used, The Anatomy Coloring Book http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Anatomy-Coloring-Book/Wynn-Kapit/e/9780805350869 I am a very visual learner so being able to spend time coloring the muscles was helpful….and fun! LOL. Oh and studing in the bath has always worked well for me…not sure why. lol
You've just reminded me, I have a continuing Ed coarse I HAVE to finish soooooon! Off I go to study https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_geek.gif
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I actually just passed the ACE Personal Trainer test today https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif, and passed the Group Fitness Instructor test in Decemeber. I found that most of the test was based on the manual and not the anatomy books. Even so, I would definitely study the whole thing, it helps with the manual. Mainly, be sure you have a very good understanding of the heart, the rotator cuff, the leg muscles, and back issues and what muscles are tight or weak in those.
To help me remember the muscles I labled my son's body with a washable marker. It gave him some attention and helped me study at the same time.
Are you doing GFI or PT? I was surprised at how many questions about music I had on the GFI test and equally as surprised at how many I had on nutrition on the PT test.
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it sounds similar to massage therapy exam content. i've had to take two different state exams, and it's always anatomy, anatomy, and more anatomy!
@chumpchkin – i don't think you will have any problem, you are used to studying! 🙂
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Im taking the GFI right now. thanks Veena for the coloringbook tip- I am also very visual- but at the same time- a very kinesthetic learner- having a buddy and marker s may work good for me too- I love the flash cards that came w the set too. Im one those epole peeps who get in trouble- I watch a move- cant get in my head and have to jump on and move through the whole thing to figure it out. Gotta feel it. What are you dooing your cont ed onVeena? Ijust did 30 hours for my RN license- all on dementia so nothing that will help me here! lol
@chumchkin- Im already an RN so Im familiar w a lot of the concepts- but I still think you would do fine w diligent application. I had no background when I enetered nursing school- It was fast paced and I absorbed the info. You have a year w tyhis curriculum so you can break it down at your own pace. I just got anemail from ace and they said ch 1 which is a lot of anatomy- to break the sections into weeks and move on to the next chapter- not to get stuck there- so one week focus on leg muscles, next review leg and add back, etc.. till you eventually have it all.
@Lindalu- congrats! You did both- good for you!! Thanks for the tips. I havent started the manual as of yet- interesting about the music- Thanks for the tips. I was a cardiac nurse so the heart I love, thank God! Anatomy is coming back- Worked for neurosurgeons so I was pretty good at brain and back and nerve paths but need ot brush up on the rest.
guess i was just surprised in general how much real info is in here- I have much more respect for ace certified trainers having seen the course material.
@Tarah- my cousin went through the massage therapy training- she had a tough time w all the anatomy but in the end passed. I was her "model" for a school a lot.. poor me. haha
Oh- and good luch Holly!! Ill probably be done when you start so if you need any help- Ill be here!!
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I love the book "anatomy of movement" and the anatomy coloring book that Veena mentioned. What Ilove about the "AofM" book is that you have pictures of people and the actions of the muscle and movement, origan and insertion..stuf like that. What I love about the ACB is that you will really know the size and shape and get a real sense of the origans and insertion again, (it also has the "planes" in the front of the book…Know that for sure Oh…the flash cards are awesome too.
If you can visualize the body as first a skeleton, then with the muscles, then you can "see" how they work and the WAY they work. If you know the planes of the body then it will be easier to say know that it is "medial aspect" or "anterior" or whatever. It gives you a way to break it down. Like when you are standing and you bend your knee back and pull your heel towards your bum…that's hip extension, knee flexion, and planter flexion at the ankle joint.
I also you to slowly walk and talk myself through the movement…like this move I would say when I run my back leg in extending at the hip…touch the front of my hip…I am using my hamstrings to flex my knee as I bend it…and touch the back of the leg..find the bony landmarks for the origan and insertion adn say what type of contraction it was. In the hip flexor it is an eccentric…in the hamstring it is concentric..Like that…
This way you are using all your senses to get it into your"head" and since you are very kinectic it will help. Make a unny story up too.
Like the rotator cuff is called the "SITS" muscle..Know it in your sleep.
I also used to right the name of what I was learning about 100-200 times at least….so I had the spelling down. often the name has some great tools to figure out what and where it is.
I found that my Nursing A and P didnt really help with my fitness stuff, I am also a Massage Therapist…(not active) but that was different anatomy too.
When you do the coloring book…go through the ace and just pick the muscles they want you to know…otherwise it will take you a lifetime to get through that book. The flash cards too…just pick what Ace wants you to know.
If you get a chance take a fitness related A and P course. I went through the USCD extentiosn program for Personal Trainers and it helped a lot witht the fitness stuff.
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@ Paulettepoles I'm doing Adult beginner ballet!!!
@Pegasusaerial…you mean I didn't have to color the penis?!? just kidding. Yeah, only worry about coloring, the major muscle groups. Unless you really want to color the penis.https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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I might just have to invest in that coloring book. I'd be one to color the peenie too…https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
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would that be Penimaximus on the anterior posterior ascpect?..ha Ha..too funny you guys!
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sorry Paulette:) had to get a little giggle in:D
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I purchased the ACE books about a year ago. Got through the first one and about 5 chapters into the Manual and had to stop due to some family reasons. It's tough, especially if you have no background in the field. The ACE board on fb used to be active with a bunch of folks giving tips on what was on the test etc. Haven't been there in a while to see if the people are still active. A lot of folks used quizlet. If you search there you will find some ace flash cards that people have made that you can also use to study. There is also an iphone app for this sight.
Here is a bunch of misc information that I've collected from fb. There is no organization to it so hopfully it will make sense. Mostly info about what is on the 4th ed exam. Hope it will help someone!
Pointers: READ YOUR QUESTIONS SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY… know the heart and how blood flows in and out of the heart as well as to and from the lungs also how medications affect HR, BP, cardiac output and SV…quite a few questions on protein and carbohydrate requirements for a variety of different clients…know your food labels, how to calculate calories, body fat %, how many deficit calories in order to achieve a certain amount of weight loss, how many cals in a gram of fat, protein, carb and alcohol (that was a surprise one on there). A handful of questions regarding pregnant clients and what they can/can't do in terms of a program…know how estrogen plays a role in osteoporosis, and postmenopausal women. Know your rotator cuff and the prime movers of the shoulder for flexion, adduction and resisted abduction…difference between training for endurance and strength. KNOW THE IFT MODEL inside and out! There is a lot regarding appropriate responses and interaction with clients. I'll post some more if I can think of them!
Know the IFT model
Concentrate on professional roles
April @ ACE Thank you for your email. If you are referring to question 1 on page 103 for the Chapter 12 Master the Manual Personal Trainer 4th edition, the correct answer is A, low risk. The printed answer of B, moderate risk, is a known error that we have submitted for correction in the next printing.
Just passed the ACE CPT exam last week, and found some of the info people posted here to be of great help, namely: pregnancy and exercise, flow of blood thru the heart, calorie deficit required to lose x-amount of weight (2 questions), resistance training variables for endurance/power/hypertrophy/strength…memorize that. Will add more as I think of them. Read each question verrrry carefully, and be sure to look at all the client variables (high BP, Cholesterol, sedentary) when reading the scenario questions. Seriously…if I can pass it, you can too
can someone HELP me with a question? what is the formula for this problem:
your client would like to lose 20pounds over the next 15 weeks. what daily caloric deficit is needed to achieve this goal?
**1 lb=3500 calories, 20 lbs=70,000 calories, 70,000/15 weeks=4,667 calories/week or 4,667/7=667 calories per day. Hope I did this right and it makes sense.Or
you can just do 20/15 * 500 = 667
o make sure you know where to take the skinfold measurements.. I mean precisely where.. All I knew was thigh, chest and abs… But you need to know where you mark it and how to administer the skinfold test…
During the initial interview, a new client claims, “I want to lose 20 lb (9.1 kg) in the next two months.” Which of the following responses would be MOST appropriate?
Ask her to tell you about her exercise experience and activities she enjoys so you can design a program to help her achieve her goals?
Educate her that this goal is unrealistic, but that she can safely lose up to 2 lb (0.9 kg) per… week according to the guidelines for sustained weight loss.
Acknowledge her enthusiasm and help her develop more realistic goals and a series of achievable steps to work toward them.
Explain that she will have to be diligent with her exercise program and should fast one day per week to boost metabolism to reach her goal.
Ans: Acknowledge…
What is the Ratio of carbs/protein one should have for a post workout meal/snack?
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If your client is on Beta Blockers what effect will it have on their heart rate? Do Beta blockers enhance someone’s performance ability? What effect do Diuretics have on A client's heart rate?
Betablockers Decrease the heart rate;) Best way to monitor heart rate while exercising on Beta blockers is RPE or talk test
ACE Friends: I have a very serious question for you: If sally wants to lose 30 pounds in 20 weeks what will her daily caloric deficit have to be to reach her goal?
750
Make sure you know the different posture deviations, ie: lordosis, kyphosis, etc. There were quite a few questions on those. A handful of pregnancy questions too. Also, know the different planes of motion and which exercises take place in which plane.
If Sally has lordosis, Which muscles would possibly be tight and which would possibly be weak?
Abdominal and hip extensor muscles may be weak. Hip flexors and spine extensors are probably tight.
Feeling really frustrated and stupid as I review the course for the 2nd time trying to retain everything before taking the exam. I'm stuck on the Sample Torque Calculation on page 111 of the Essentials book. I understand the first part, RxRa=FxFa and follow that equation, but I can't seem to grasp the second part regarding how much force must be created by the elbow flexors to hold the weight steady.
Really lost as to the 150 pound-inches / 2 inches, part. Can anyone explain this to me? I'd really appreciate it, and how much of this torque stuff is on the exam? Anyone??Answer: None
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here is an interesting fact – there is no muscle in the penis! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_safesex.gif
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You know after reading all this I feel so……….underaccomplished. lol Impressive ladies. As for that little tidbit about the penis….. I never knew that. Very cool to learn really! 🙂
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ahhaaa you guys are a bunch of help and a bunch of laughs!!
Im getting the coloring book now- for the sole reason of coloring the penis. Will be my new anatomy profile pic. lol Gotta learn. Or maybe Ill magic marker my hubbies.
@Pegasus- I STILL want to talk to you- I havent forgotten you. My daughter was in the hospital again- and now my aunt is in the hospice house so bewteen them and the ALF Ive had my days BOOKED! Things should calm down very soon. 🙂 Then anatomy and aerial and business talks to be had!
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No worries..I TOTALLY understand. ditto on the talk. ps..going up to see Cat from Poleates for some training so this weekend I think i will be a big pile of mush and limited of the brain cell funtion. i'm still cracken up on the "P" thing. i'm going to ask my husband to see if he knew that…or should I keep him in the dark about that. So If it is not a musclehow does it do "that" ….wait…nver mind dont an anwer. TMI
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pegasus – a short answer to that question is just lots of nitric oxide. It causes vasodilation and the blood fills all the caverns in the special tissue (called corpora spongiosum and cavernosa.) The only reason I know this is I had a VERY AWKWARD lecture one day in cell biology. We were all like https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif….Did our professor just lecure us on THAT?!…..
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perfect little smiley icon…hilarious. i guess it stuck with you…now i wont for get..cant wait to explain that to my husband.
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It wouldn't have been such an awkward lecture had it not been the specific teacher doing it. ANY of my other professors would have been okay…but THIS ONE…it was just weird.
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Haha! Oh, this is all so funny (and awesome of you ladies studying!) I can’t help but jump in and mention that the tissue of the penis is designed as a lattice on the diagonal. When, ummm, flaccid, the lattice can collapse on itself, but the lattice structure gives plenty of space to fill with blood and gives the structural integrity we recognize in the excited state. A fun bit of trivia– the structure was discovered by a woman scientist. Prior to her work everyone thought the tissue structure was on the square, kind of like plaid. Of course, that doesn’t really make sense from the, errr, shrink swell aspects, but it took a woman to point that out!
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You guys are cracking me up! There are definitely not any questions on the ACE GFI or PT exams about penises. lol However, What Ginger Kitty posted is very accurate on what to expect.
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