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40mm X-Pole
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XPole actually makes a brass pole and it's genuine…not fake brass. I"ve never heard of anyone who thought that the titanium was anything but titanium.
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I have to laugh at all this hoopla about genuine metals from people who have no idea about what it takes to engineer something that even your 200kg nana can hop on – yet is has to be löight enough for you to take up & down all the time!!!
XPOLE brass is as geniune ( or as fake ) as Platinum Stages. brass.. They are both brass , of different compisition.. You may not enjoy the brass used by XPOLE or Platinum… This doesnt mean its not real brass.. Here is a list of metal ( found on the web) I doubt it will change your mind about Xpoles use of 'FAKE BRASS' but at least you can appear somewhat educated. Brass types
Admiralty brass contains 30% zinc and 1% tin which inhibits dezincification in most environments.
Alpha brasses (Prince's metal), with less than 35% zinc, are malleable, can be worked cold, and are used in pressing, forging, or similar applications. They contain only one phase, with face-centered cubic crystal structure.
Alpha-beta brass (Muntz metal), also called duplex brass, is 35-45% zinc and is suited for hot working. It contains both α and β' phase; the β'-phase is body-centered cubic and is harder and stronger than α. Alpha-beta brasses are usually worked hot.
Aluminium brass contains aluminium, which improves its corrosion resistance. Used in Euro coins (Nordic gold).
Arsenical brass contains an addition of arsenic and frequently aluminium and is used for boiler fireboxes.
Beta brasses, with 45-50% zinc content, can only be worked hot, and are harder, stronger, and suitable for casting.
Cartridge brass is a 30% zinc brass with good cold working properties.
Common brass, or rivet brass, is a 37% zinc brass, cheap and standard for cold working.
DZR brass is Dezincification resistant Brass with a small percentage of Arsenic.
Gilding metal is the softest type of brass commonly available. An alloy of 95% copper and 5% zinc, gilding metal is typically used for ammunition components.
High brass, contains 65% copper and 35% zinc, has a high tensile strength and is used for springs, screws, rivets.
Leaded brass is an alpha-beta brass with an addition of lead. It has excellent machinability.
Low brass is a copper-zinc alloy containing 20% zinc with a light golden color, excellent ductility and is used for flexible metal hoses and metal bellows.
Naval brass, similar to admiralty brass, is a 40% zinc brass and 1% tin.
Red brass, while not technically brass, is an American term for CuZnSn alloy known as gunmetal.
Rich low brass contains 85% copper 15% zinc often used in jewelry applications .
White brass contains more than 50% zinc and is too brittle for general use.
Yellow brass is an American term for 33% zinc brass.
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Holy Crap Empy!! I cannot believe that snap! I would freak out!
PoleDollqld…you are cracking me up! I am usually the one who posts the sarcastic metal contents….
Erica, are you going to tell me that PS makes the adjuster rod and adjuster cover out of brass and there is no reinforcement whatsoever at the top or bottom of the pole? How does your brass withstand the forces that are applied especially at these points? How are you not stripping the threads on the adjuster cover and rod when you secure the pole…do you also have a brass locking nut? This is what I meant that you have steel parts or some other type of metal and that your brass poles are not all brass.
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I am not on here to argue…no I am not a metal expert or chemist..but tg is not brass,but it electrically charged to simulate brass..and nowhere do I see where xpole makes a brass pole..in fact,I have personall calles them a few weeks ago to ask abt a studio here in my town who said @ first they had brass xpoles,and xpole confirmed they do not have brass only tg and they just started making them abt 2 yrs ago..the studio owner reconfirmed they r brass and not xpole…don’t know if they make xpole brass in other countries,but not here in the us…again,I am not here to argue,but was interested in a brass pole,that is y I asked u abt xpole and y I had called them.
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I'm gonna chime in for a second…I love my PS pole to death, I wouldn't consider it a flaw to have it reinforced with a steel rod through the center to give it extra strength. Bobbi's poles in Australia does that with the 38mm's. I do not consider that a flaw in any way but just an added quality assurance (sorry for the biotech speak.)
Now with regards to the x pole being a brass. Yes, they have brass poles. The debate comes in with is it plated or is it solid brass (whether reinforced with a lining or not)? There was some conflict with what customer service was converying to the customers, Just becuase the x pole is lined doesn't mean it isn't a solit brass pole. Like it was said before, the joints would strip brass, so they need to reinforce the poles with t astronger metal to make them safe and sturdy.
It IS important to know whether your brass pole is "solid" or plated in regards to care, because you are not supposed to use brasso, or similar products on brass plated products.
That is my 2 cents. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
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madision Xpole makes 4 types of poles. Chrome. Stainless Steel. Titanum Gold, and Brass. The call the Titanum Gold TG and the Brass brass. Now the brass is a newer option so maybe your not aware that they added it to the line up.
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U r right. ..I forgot because it doesn’t come in 50mm and that is what I want and what I asked reguarding the studio was 50mm…it is brushed brass…and ps is polished…so I appologize..
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To All: Please bring this thread back on topic. This is a discussion of the 40mm X-Pole. There are several threads regarding brass poles, care and composition.
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Trust me Chemmie…it did freak me out. I was walking around the pole holding it when the pole tilted sideways…we turned the stage over and that is what I saw. This was just moments after I finished a series of inverted moves and, as I said, my third day on the pole at an exposition which I had specifically purchased it for. Probably about 6 hours of poling per day.
You can see from the picture that it broke right at the point where the hole is drilled through the pole – so it was underneath the stage surface. And it wasn't bent but just snapped like it shattered.
My point was I was told I obviously didn't know much about poles because I should have requested it be reinforced when I ordered it because brass isn't strong enough.
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Sorry webmaster..I was typing when you wrote and I'm a slow typer! 🙂
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I agree with the webmaster that this has gotten off topic and we should all stick to the topic at hand. However, I feel like it is only fair that I get to respond to all the things that are completely false.
Platinum Stages is a manufacturer and we’ve been in business for over 10 years. We’ve been selling brass for over 10 years. Since we are a manufacturer and we’ve invented new products, we’re able to constantly update, upgrade and technologically advance our products. Our original stage was the very FIRST freestanding pole ever to come out. We invented freestanding poles and we set the standard for freestanding poles on the market. As technology has advanced, so have our products and we continually improve and advance our products.
I have never once mentioned X-pole’s type of brass and I’ve never commented on their products. X-pole is not the only other pole company aside from Platinum Stages on the market. It is no secret that some companies DO powder coat or plate their poles. Again, I never have said that this is a negative or positive thing. In fact, I’ve seen posts about people getting their uncoated poles “powder coated” and I’ve never said that this is a negative thing. It is a personal preference. Since we do not powder coat our products, I can only speak on behalf of our products and I can only state the facts.
@ – We do not make an adjuster rod or an adjuster cover. We do make a screw thread and a coupler (pieces that attach the pole) that connect the pole and those are made of steel. The actual POLE (and the danceable area of the pole) is made of only brass.
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Actually ps made a rectangular stage..then XPOLE made a round stage & stage lite.. then you made a round stage lite/ star stand alone. So PS may have created the first stage but it certainly didnt mind using the enigineering of another company, needless to say i dont think PS sets the standard for the portable pole … Call it what you like, coupler or adjuster cover or whatever else.. it isnt brass.. nor should it be brass… unless we want this to happen
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@Platinum Stages – Frankly I expect more from a leader in the pole community. You have shown our members and us no respect by further posting along a line of discussion I had asked to be ceased. Only children seek the last word on an issue, grown-ups understand that a well reasoned argument stands on its own.
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@All – I apologize for what this thread has descended into and the spam it may have caused in your inbox. This thread will be locked after this post and I hope that someone will start a new thread discussing the 40mm X-Pole. I would also encourage anyone who'd like to discuss the various properties of brass, brass's effect on pole dancing or any aspect of pole quality to please dig up one of the many threads about these topics or start a new one.
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