I’m pretty sure bobbi sells permanents b/c I emailed her a while ago and asked. She apparently just gets the spinny flanges from a plumber supply store and buys the pole separate which is where I got the idea for my own pole. I went to grainger.com and ordered 2 ‘ball bearing’ flanges and separately bought an 8 foot brass tube (google "brass tubing"). My DH had to trim the pole a few millimeters (luckily he has a metal cutter) and we put it together. I ordered everything in 38mm (1.5"). LOVE IT!!!! Are you able to go to bobbi’s studio? What I wouldn’t give to return to Australia and spend a week there fine tuning my moves!!!