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Pole Fitness and Supplements?
Posted by Kobajo84 on June 20, 2013 at 10:58 amJust curious, what are all your thoughts on supplements? I came across a post on my FB newsfeed and it was for a company called Pole Fitness Nutrition. It's "supplements" designed for strength and toning. I've never tried supplements before- about 8 years ago I took a multivitamin from Walmart and broke out in massive hives all over so naturally, I avoid anything going into my body unless it is food. I've seen people promoting supplements before for other fitness related activities like weight lifting but this was the first time I've seen it specific to pole.
Kobajo84 replied 12 years, 7 months ago 13 Members · 28 Replies -
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I really only take supplements for nutrient deficiencies I have. Other than that, they shouldn't be necessary. You can even OD on some. B6 is apparently one of them, and I didn't know that. I was taking a B-complex and now my B6 is 3 times what it should be!
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Speaking as a certified plant-based nutritionist, I would not suggest taking ANY supplements without the go ahead from a certified nutritionist. In my opinion, most supplements should not even be available over the counter.
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Supplements are pretty scary and not regulated. There can be some dangerous stuff in them so be very careful! If you really feel like your diet is lacking, consult a nutritionist/dietician.
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I take some supplements. I mean what exactly is in this product for "strength and toning" (there is no such thing as toning anyways). Honestly, you dont really need any supplements for strength. The only thing that will build strength is to build muscles, tendons, ligaments etc.. and that is only done by eating proper nutrients and working out to break down the muscles (being on a progressive program).
No supplement is going to build mass or strength.
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I take supplements, but I’ve also researched, the supplements I take. Glucosamine is one of the best supplements I’ve taken period while poling. I take a daily multi-vitamin for women additional iron once a month helps me as well. Our food is so genetically modified that it doesn’t give the quality nutrition it did even 10 years ago. The cost of organic food is too expensive for most people and even then it’s been subject to Monsanto through pollination. Toning will happen naturally from poling even one day a week, just be patient and listen to your body, if you crave proteins go to gnu and get the shakes they are wonderful.
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I have tan across the website you speak of…. I looked into their products, but they are mostly the same products you can get at GNC. Many of there packages were bundles of glut amine, vitamins, and glucosamine support.
I would see a speacialist before you jump on that boat. I take glucosamine, glutamine, creatinine, and vitamins…. But I also have a Crossfit Nutritionist who watches my body and cycles me in and out based on what I am putting my body through.
There are tons of products out there and it can get confusing, that’s why I recommended a professional!
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I agree with the professional idea completely, except not everyone is lucky enough to be able to afford a professional.
Once people start getting into DHEA, CLA and stuff like that its best they consulate with their personal physician.
I honestly don’t think omega 3’s, glucosamine and multi-vitamins will harm the average person, there are more side effects from most common anti-depressants than supplements.
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Thanks for all you input. I personally would never take supplements but I wanted to get a general idea of this new trend I’m seeing in the pole industry about supplements. I don’t believe in them and if I recall correctly as being AFAA certified, I am not even allowed to promote fitness related supplements in any way. And as a nurse, legally I am not allowed to suggest supplements because it would be considered “prescribing” which is not within my scope of practice.
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From personal experience I've found that I have more energy and healthier skin when I take a daily multi-vitamin. I also take cod-liver tablets and pro-biotics daily. Many people don't consume enough protein through their diet but I don't know enough about protein shakes to recommend them.
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Supplements that are organic and not filled with fillers and coatings are fine, unfortunately a lot on the market are not good quality, I spend around the price of a coffee and donut a day on supplements, they are one of the best brands on the market, I have been taking them for 4 years now, my blood test actually improved my doctor is constantly amazed at my results at age, and always asks me what Am i doing.Of course you need to be careful, do your research and talk to professionals, I will take supplements before I take any prescription medication.achieving optimum nutrition is what it’s about.Dr Ross Walker has written an excellent book (The cell factor) based on research into using supplements to optimize your health! There is just so much evidence out there for the benefits of supplements, but at the end of the day it’s the individuals own choice, I choose to pay money for this rather than coffee and cake based on what I have experienced for myself by taking them and based on the reading and research I have done and that’s good enough for me .:-)
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I wouldn't take 'supplements' to help me 'build muscle' or be 'toned'…no way. I think of those in the same light as diet pills.
However, I do take quality supplements to help make up for what my diet may be lacking. Emphasis on quality, most supplements you would buy at Walmart are 'cheap' in every sense of the word. I buy mine either online or at a health food store, and I do my research.
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Research. Learn from body builders who have been supplementing for years and years and years. There are good companies out there and there are some sketchy ones. I know quite a few people who are in the supplement trade that I trust and others I have seen at body building competitions that make me laugh. I am quite thankful that many are not regulated because quite honestly our FDA sucks and they only work for big pharma (I will get off my soap box now).
As for the company that you saw, be wary of those companies that are trying to make a buck off the back of an up and coming sport.
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Haha chem you read my thoughts!!! I will note that I am supplementing based on MD and ND recommendations. I do not supplement to gain muscle. That seems odd to me. I supplement for my deficiencies and migraines. I.e. vitamin D, b12, magnesium, riboflavin, chromium. I buy them from my doc or at the health food store, not Walmart. I do get some of the refills on amazon.
I suggest getting a nutrient panel. That us how I found my deficiencies. You need to be careful with far soluble vitamins as they build up in your system, unlike water soluble ones that you can just pee out. Vitamin a can be bad in excess. Accutane is similar to vitamin a and you should not get pregnant on it due to the severe birth defects it causes!!
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Come on, ladies! I’m new to pole and I’m impressed by everyone i see on this fabulous website, but I’m really disappointed by this thread. Would it be so bad to get all your nutritional needs from your food? Really, if you focus on everything you consume to be providing what your body needs to thrive, you wouldn’t give supplements a second glance. This mindset helps me avoid anything that’s not packed with goodness and I never need supplements. Start by buying a big bag of spinach and eating it raw alongside everything you normally eat (and hopefully that’s not junk food!). Please try it before going anywhere near supplements.
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Clavrot, it is a well known and researched fact that our fruit and vegetables do not contain all the vitamins and minerals we need nowdays, unless of course you grow your own organically. to think otherwise is ignorance.
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As i said before supplementation is about achieving optimum nutrition, therefore our cells perform better, which in turn helps us in numerous ways, firstly to achieve optimum health and well being, i for one am not dissapointed by this thread, a person asked a genuine question and people have given their honest answers, it has been interesting to hear others opinions, and just as yours and mine they are only opinions, which some have based on their own profssional advice and research.
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The truth is that supplements are just that, a SUPPLEMENT to good diet and healthy lifestyle. It should never be the basis of your diet and, as the others have said, anything you take should be researched throughly.
I take a few supplements as I said. I take a multi on DOCTORS orders. Found out a few years ago that i have a couple of nutirents that my body has a hard time getting from my foods. Even in a diet rich in those nutrients, my body just doesnt cooperate sometimes, leading to physical symptoms. I take a multi and much of those symptoms are alleviated.
I also take protein drinks at times. Sometimes i am running late, need cals and protein and dont have time to cook or make things. A protein supplement is useful at those times.
I also use a pre workout, because i teach a lot of classes and need to keep my energy high to motivate others in their workout. Other people count on my energy and motivation to keep them going in an hour long class. Sometimes that energy is hard to get when you have done 4 classes that week, plus lifted weights, plus pole classes, throw in the care of kids/home and volunteer work, and yeah i tend to get a bit tired!
So there are reasons to add supplements, but nothing will "tone and strengthen" and many supplements/products make a lot of claims that they cant back up. Top it off with lots of companies who use cheap products and charge crazy prices and you really need to know what you are taking and why before you buy.
Obviously, if i followed the advice of just eat, i would be not be able to function on a daily basis, nor would i be able to make a living.
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I guess it’s very personal. My disappointment comes not from the question posed or the thread itself, instead from the fact that the pharmaceutical companies producing ‘multis’ and so on are more influential than I had thought. I am vegan and get my bloods taken regularly. I have above average iron levels and am getting all the protein/ calcium etc I need from plant based nutrition. With the exception of b12, there is nothing that can’t be found in abundance in fresh fruit and veg. I understand why you take them to keep up that mega impressive schedule, as it is not easy preparing a great diet in this day and age, but personally i am very skeptical of all synthetic supplements. And would always ask people to seriously look to nature first.
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Being vegan it is extra important for you to consume the proper amounts of nutrients. If anything you should be a pro at this supplementing since you do not eat any meat or animal based product.
But your disappointment won’t be with these ladies it will be with yourself when you do not build the muscle needed for this sport.
There are vegan friendly suppliments
p.s when I typed gnu I meant gnc, gnu is open source software not a suppliment store.
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I just want to sneak in here and say for several demographics of women including some older women, it’s not a good idea to have multiple servings every day of super iron-rich greens like spinach. Too much iron from those foods can have a negative impact on bone growth/density and healing, so for example someone at risk for or suffering from osteoporosis or a broken bone would not want to elevate their iron levels.
Also those with kidney or liver problems can suffer serious negative effects from the way the body processes certain kinds of protein supplements.
The simple answer is that supplements are best used under the advice of your licensed medical doctor. Those with poor nutrient absorption because of secondary medical issues in particular can benefit from working with a doctor to form a plan for incorporating supplements and checking nutrient levels to monitor the effects. For those of normal, average functioning, nutrient absorption from food tends to be higher than nutrient absorption from some supplements. So again, a doctor’s advice can be really helpful. As others have mentioned, those who train very heavily in particular could benefit a lot from working with a licensed nutritionist as well- they are trained not only to help you eat what you need, but also show you how to make your meals varied and appetizing.
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I’m afraid I might have hit a nerve with the whole vegan thing. It’s maybe not the direction this should be going. Animal protein or not, it’s just a question of maths. If your required daily vitamins are not consumed in the form of natural food, then supplements will be necessary to remain healthy and strong. All I’m saying is if we all (me included as my diet is far from perfect) took an honest look at our food intake, with the help of a nutritionalist or doctor if necessary, we should find all the answers in nature, and have no need to rely on synthetic forms of the same thing. I’m off to my polefit class. If only I had the energy to put my hotpants on! Only joking 🙂
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Let me note, I eat a fairly healthy diet. I eat a lot of veggies, kale, tomatos, quinoa, nutritional yeast, etc. I eat mostly vegan. I have some deficiencies, so I take supplements to remedy that.
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It isn't always simple maths. My relative, as an example, became very anemic, and couldn't absorb iron from foods. It took trying a lot of different supplements to remedy the issue. Not all iron supplements were absorbed by her.
Not really the topic anyways. I see the topic as seeing a product and asking for thoughts. Nothing wrong with that. I think we all agree that no supplements are going to build one muscle. Gotta work hard for that!
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Clavrot, there are some supplements that are not synthetic, totally organic, have no fillers, coatings or nasties!
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