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My concern is that when I'm smaller, my tummy flub is going to be harder to ignore. That's why I've resolved to try to get my body in great shape before I go in for surgery. For one, I won't be able to pole for several months during recovery (the push/pull movements of pole are a super no-no) and for two, I don't want to be like "Well, OK, now the boobs are right but the rest is all wrong!"
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I LOVE BustyGirlComics! Been a while since I visited. Thanks for linking!
Karencanclimb – Acceptable but industrial/sturdy – I think you hit the nail on the head there. I had a bikini like that once. Did the job, and was a nice color, but the design – well, the underwire was visible and it clipped in the back like a bra. Ugh.
Lyme, I could be wrong but I thought you read you'd had an explantation? Or am I thinking of Tarah?
Ninja, I'll have to check it out. I think for now I'm done spending money on myself, though. Holidays and all that. But maybe for summertime…
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I think it's worth noting, too, that a lot of amateur dancers don't upload their sexiest stuff to YouTube, or don't make it publicly visible. (I know I set all my videos to Unlisted, so only people whom I give the link can see it, and I turn off comments.) YouTube can be a vicious, vicious place.
Another reason we're all so glad for StudioVeena! Rare to see any viciousness around here.
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OK, the Curvaceous Tula Top from Mika came in the mail yesterday. And…did not fit. 🙁 It was great around the ribs, but still not enough material to hold everything in. I thought I'd take a chance because it said the XL could fit up to 36DD, and I'm 38… but no.
I'm still going to hang onto it, though, because I think I could layer it over one of my aging, fading sports bras, and it matches my pole shorts. And who knows, when I get the reduction, I might be able to use it by itself.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. At least now I know a Mika XL is not XL enough. *Sigh* back to the drawing board… wish I knew how to sew…
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Everyone brings their own flair to pole dancing – whether that be sexy, poetic/artistic, athletic, or any combination of the above.
Perhaps you are seeing a lot of non-sexy videos because pole dancing has become so accessible to "laypeople," to women (and men!) of all ages, backgrounds, and physical abilities. For many, this is primarily a fitness activity, and the sexy side of it holds no appeal. To each her own, I say.
I definitely wouldn't say the sexy is gone from pole dance. It's definitely still there. And the abundance of non-exotic dancers is actually a good thing – it's chipping away at the public stigma around pole dancing, giving our ladies the space to be sexy and unashamed.
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I've definitely gotten reactions like those you describe, Ninja. Usually I'm quick to point out to the disadvantages associated with my chest size.
"I wish I had boobs as big as yours!"
"You say that now, but come swimsuit shopping with me sometime."I try to be sensitive, though. For many women, curves are a symbol of femininity. I can understand how women who have string-bean bodies or who aren't well-endowed in the breast department feel less feminine because of it. (That's a big part of the problem I have with the "real women have curves" campaigns; non-curvy women are real women too.)
I know what it's like to not feel feminine. Before pole, I was not very in touch with my feminine side and often felt I had trouble relating to women because I didn't feel, well, woman enough. Even with huge breasts and a decent ass! I did not feel very "female" on the inside.
Not only that, but there is sexual/social status involved with having large breasts. In our "bigger is better" culture, it's assumed that women with big tits have better luck with men. They get more attention, are more desirable, and stand out in crowds. What some women who have never experienced large-breastitude don't always realize is that, well, we don't necessarily want all that extra attention. Sure, we might have an advantage getting that cute guy across the bar to notice us, but not before every other creeper in the place has undressed us with his eyes, touched or groped us, or made some sort of comment to let us know he noticed our boobs before anything else on us.
It's a grass is always greener thing for sure.
I admit I've had some fun with it, too, though. I have a guy friend who has motorboating privileges. 😉 And at parties in college, I used to stick a bottle of drink in my cleavage and lean back to drink it with no hands. A couple weeks ago I attended a drag show, and BOY did the drag queens give a lot of attention to my boobs (to be fair, I was wearing them high and tight – cleavage ahoy!).
I've been thinking about a reduction since I was still a teen, but it wasn't until this past summer that I actually *decided* to go for it, after Husband and I decided we're not planning to have kids. I was sort of shocked to feel a little panicky after I made the choice – I didn't realize I'd come to identify with my breasts. I'm used to being a woman with big boobs, used to the comments and attention (welcome or unwelcome), used to commiserating with my well-breasted sisters… I'd been so focused on the physical benefits of the surgery, I'd not considered that it could affect my identity and sense of self.
Like, if you woke up tomorrow and were a B cup, you'd probably be physically and emotionally relieved – but wouldn't it be strange to see yourself that way? Would you recognize yourself without your boobs? Might you miss them, even a little bit?
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I feel sad, Glitter, that you've been on the receiving end of so much rudeness in the pole community. You don't deserve it. (None of us does.)
You'd think that a leading provider of clothes for pole dancers would understand the importance of boobal coverage and support. I can't help thinking of strippers with implants that push them into the D+ sizes. I mean, maybe it's a little less important to have adequate coverage and support when you're just gonna take it off anyway, but still, these ladies have to get their costumes somewhere, right?
I can kinda see the point in limiting the selection to certain sizes – after all, it does cost money to produce and stock all the different sizes in all the different colors, so if you want to make a profit, you narrow things down to the stuff you'll sell the most of. And we curvy girls are in the minority among polers, at least from my perspective – I've seen more dancers who have, say, Veena's body type than I've seen those who share mine. (No hate or disrespect, V!)
So I get it from a business perspective. But there's *opportunity* here. There's an entire underserved market with money to spend. How this escapes the attention of so many retailers is beyond me.
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Wow, Glitter, I'd agree that that was pretty rude! "Most polers"… most polers where? That's what I wanna know.
If you're gonna make a line of clothes just for pole dancers, then it's on you to spend some time out in the world with pole dancers. This means, NOT just at competitions. NOT just around advanced dancers. NOT just at one studio or in one city. Otherwise, you're not really making clothes for pole dancers; you're making clothes for your friends, who happen to pole dance.
I don't intend to compete, ever. (Competition brings out the worst in me.) I'd like to perform in showcases, but even that isn't a big deal to me. But even if I am dancing in my living room for the rest of my poling life, I still want cute clothes, dammit! Just because I'm "invisible" to the pole community doesn't mean I don't count and don't deserve to look hawt.
Ugh. Obviously touched a nerve there.
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It is pretty sad how all the specialty pole wear seems designed for leggy, size zero girls with no boobs – but that's probably because most of the famous pole dancers who run the companies are petite and have athletic frames. It would be fantastic for an average sized person to design a pole fitness/costume line – I would totally buy it!
Hear, hear! For all the celebration of body types and sizes and abilities and such in the pole dancing world, it certainly doesn't show up in our pole-specific clothing lines.
Every once in a while the little Green Monster of Envy pops up when I visit the studio or hang out with my pole friends, because I'm pretty much the only one with my body type. They are slim, leggy, some petite and some tall, and none of them very busty. They're all beautiful – I love them and I love how they dance! But they can carry off a look that I can't because of their body type. I mean, even getting away from breasts for a second, platform heels look way different on a woman who's 5'11" and lean with long legs than they do on someone 5'5" with stocky, short legs.
I'll have to try that questionairre. Along with bowling-ball boobs, I also have a pretty short torso. I don't have a lot of space between the bottom of my bust and my waist. I have to be very cautious wearing anything belted across the middle so it doesn't visually chop me in half. So a questionnaire that factors in everything going on around the boobs sounds like a good idea.
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Preach it, Lulu! Nothing pisses me off more than sifting through the XLs in sportswear and still not being able to find something cute the covers the girls. I'd love to see more sportswear for busty women – not just bras, but cute tops like the Bad Kitty one that pantherchild linked to. We want to be cute and sexy too! I'm sure if you did do a clothing line like that, you'd have little trouble finding a following for it – especially if there was a way to make them more affordable. It drives me up the wall that b-cup women can grab something cute and sexy off the rack for $15 while I'm a couple aisles over bargaining with myself over how many $50-60 bras I can justify buying in one trip.
The Panache one looks pretty awesome, actually! I like how there is definition between the breasts, not just a band of fabric spanning the gap, or the dreaded Uniboob. I've had sports bras in the past that made the girls look *bigger* and that's the last thing I need.
While we're on the topic, can we talk about boob sweat? I swear I sweat more between and under my breasts than anywhere else on my body. And it STINKS – at the end of the day, my boobs often smell kinda yeasty and gross. I've seen differing opinions about this but the consensus seems to be that it's not really a good idea to use antiperspirant anywhere but your armpits (though I've used it myself on my inner thighs to prevent chafing if I'm wearing a skirt with no hose or something).
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Ninja, you're right, your top does look really secure (and cute!!) in your video. Good to know, it did catch my eye, and I've had luck in the past with tankini-style swimsuit tops styled similarly to the Lynn. We'll see how the Tula goes over before I order any more from Mika.
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Sadly, no amount of exercise has had any effect on the size of my breasts, hence the plan to have them surgically reduced. I've been the same cup size since I was about 16, and my band size has only changed from 36 to 38.
That's also why I don't want to spend a whole ton on tops/bras for myself at this size. For one, every dollar I don't spend on bras goes into the surgery fund, and for two, I'm just gonna have to buy new ones for my new breasts anyway.
God I can't wait.
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Believe me, PFM, the double D's are overrated. I'm currently saving up for reduction surgery to take me down to a C if possible. Be GLAD you don't have my problems. 🙂
And I just caved and got the Mika Curvaceous Tula top because it's on sale right now. So much for my "I never buy online" mantra. Fingers crossed that I won't have to return it or can at least figure out some way to make it work if it's not ideal.
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Thanks Finreah, I will have a look!
I'll also retract what I said when I mentioned Mika, I'm on their site poking around now and the selection is a lot better than the last time I browsed. Looks like they've had some requests from larger-chested ladies and adapted some of their popular styles. Considering the Tula, Seren and Lynn tops.
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Dubstep has many criteria, and there are variations. In general, it’s drum and bass with a slowed tempo, a certain time signature, a bass drop, and the presence of the wub-wub sound effect. Anything beyond those basics is a matter of style and preference. Some purists may argue the details – like if it’s bass-heavy but no drop, it’s technically not dubstep- but whatever. I say it’s all good.
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Dubstep has many criteria, and there are variations. In general, it’s drum and bass with a slowed tempo, a certain time signature, a bass drop, and the presence of the wub-wub sound effect. Anything beyond those basics is a matter of style and preference. Some purists may argue the details – like if it’s bass-heavy but no drop, it’s technically not dubstep- but whatever. I say it’s all good.
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Happy to help! Can't wait to see your challenge 🙂
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What Chemgoddess said. My first inverted crucifix was from a reverse handstand, long before I was inverting.
Take one hand off at a time, maybe? This has helped me with other moves where I'm terrified to let go, like the CAR and CKR in the beginning.
My big fear right now is going from Inverted Crucifix to a thigh hold by dropping the front leg. I just can't seem to get over that mental hurdle.
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Also, if anyone's on Pandora, I have a pretty awesome Chillstep station I can share with you. I often have it on in the background when I practice at home.
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Echo, I suggest you try one of the subgenres of dubstep, called "chillstep" in some circles.
My husband LOVES dubstep but his favorite kind is the really hard, aggressive, loud stuff, which gets on my nerves pretty quickly. It can be an assault on the ears.
But through him I've discovered some other, "lighter" dubstep. Less noise, more flow. Here are some of my favorites.
"Summit" by Skrillex ft. Ellie Goulding
"With You Friends" by Skrillex – the Long Drive remix is great
"Timestretch" by Bassnectar
"Drippin" by Mimosa
Anything by Blackmill – check out his YouTube channel, BlackmillMusic. I could dance to his music all day
Most music by the duo PANTyRAiD is also pretty chill – they have a nice hip-hop influence.I'm really excited to do this challenge and will probably dance to something from the above selection myself.
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This is the one thing I don't like about poling in the winter. It takes much longer to warm myself and my pole up.
My practice frequency has been lagging partially because in my head I always block out at least an hour for it and then it feels like I don't have time, especially on weekday nights after work. One solution I thought of was to just have shorter practices instead of trying to find/make time for long sessions, which is a fine idea except that it takes me 15-20 minutes just to set up and warm up/stretch. Then practice for 30 minutes and cool down for another 10-15… ends up being an hour anyway! Argh.
My warmups are like others on here – prance around the pole, use it to stretch, and do some transitions and easy spins on static to start getting the pole warm.
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OK I finally read everyone else… Chem your additional suggestions cracked me up!!!!
A lot of mine happened when I was rather young, like 18ish… I was curious about EVERYTHING sexual and willing to try pretty much anything once (or more, teehee). Hey, how do you know what you like until you've sampled the whole buffet?
And Chump, I do sort of feel you. I rolled my eyes when I saw that on the list too, like really? But for a lot of people, a single same-sex experience IS a little sinful – like Runemist said, it's something totally out of the ordinary, maybe around the same level as having a threesome. And since getting a "high score" on this is not necessarily a bad thing, you might say us queers have a leg up on the game! 😉
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I'm with MissMeliss, this did bring back some memories. Like the opposite of "Never Have I Ever."
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Oh yeah, those two are tough. I find with Chopper, if I really focus on pointing my toes, my legs automatically go a little straigher than they were.
V Carousel, straight legs may not be so much about hammies as quads, quads are what pull your legs upwards towards your body and if they're not strong enough, holding them parallel to the floor won't be easy. (I find all the Carousel variations tough, though.)
I know when I do yoga, the instructors often talk about extending through your limbs or the top of your head, imagining they go on forever and ever and really reeeeeaching for that point on the horizon. OR, imagine there's a string tied to you and someone is pulling it straight out/up. I think maybe pointing your toes really really hard, like someone has tied a string around your big toe and is pulling it away from you, could even out your lines a bit.
The rest will just come with practice, though! Every time you do it, you get a little better at it, even if you can't see it.
I also left a couple comments on your vid. You have some great stuff in there that you should be proud of. 🙂
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A bent knee + a pointed toe can be a lovely variation to a lot of moves where the legs are usually straight, I think – but the pointed toe is the key, bent leg + flexed foot just ends up looking sloppy. Gemini, Scorpio, Butterfly – these are all moves you can do with the free leg completely straight or bent and they still look fine as long as the toe is pointed!
Maybe it would help to know which moves in particular you feel are being held back because of tight hammies?
