michaelaarghh
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I think a ‘dress code’ is ridiculous. Maybe this is an American thing? But I feel it’s absolutely ridiculous for someone to get so offended as to what other people are wearing / doing that rules need to be imposed.
I tend to agree with what has been said insofar as students will tend to follow what the teacher is doing. So if the teachers are wearing pants for warmups, “fuller” shorts and a singlet then the students will tend to copy that. I guess another option is you could sell pole wear? That way students will also be likely to buy clothes directly from the studio, and since they’ve been “approved” as appropriate there’s no probs with anyone wearing them. -
the studio i attend has classes for males, which I think is awesome. I don’t think we can discriminate against men doing pole, they should be able to take part as well.
I don’t think I’d be happy with co-ed classes though. Not because of any “inappropriateness” (I think men can be just as self conscious as women…I doubt that if they were taking a class they would be interested in checking anyone out)
But I think I would be intimidated. Boys are strong, and in the beginner men’s class at our studio, the boys are doing things the girls are doing in advanced levels. If that makes sense. I think if you were used to taking mixed-level classes, that would be fine but I hate that haha so I don’t think I’d like it too much.That being said, I think a co-ed doubles class could be a lot of fun!
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Yeah this move hurts like a mofo. I agree with Veena that if that top leg is snuggly into that knee there’s less pressure on the bottom foot. But it still hurts a little. I found with this one it’s more of a “just grin and bear it” kind of move. I found that rather than sitting in the move and freaking out about how owwie it was, if I just leant back in it, that also relieved some of the pressure. After doing that a few more times I eventually worked it out and can now get into it effortlessly 🙂
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I’m not sure if you can or not actually, because I’ve only ever taken classes. I’m in level nine. Our levels are based on skill so usually I think what they do is have a look at what you can do and then put you in the appropriate class if you have poled before. its worth giving them a call and asking them they’re all super friendly 🙂
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I prefer dancing barefoot too. I feel like once you get a move down it is nice to be able to focus on things like lines and pointed toes etc etc, which is kind of lost when you wear heels bc they do it for you. I took one a couple of years ago when I first started at the studio, but they were fantastic. The teachers are all amazing and so knowledgeable. The only reason I haven’t taken another lyrical class is I simply can’t afford it at the moment. But I have been taking a stretch class and an abs class as well as pole and I love it. You should come along!
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Heya! I pole in Sydney! I’m at Studio Verve also in Surry Hills and I love it! It is a bit more “fitness based” than Bobbi’s and we dance in barefeet, but I also love it because there’s quite a lyrical style to a lot of our dancing. I had no background in dance before poling, so for me to feel graceful is a big thing haha!
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Agree with AerialGypsy!! Don’t rush and push your body further than it’s capable of. xmas tree splits is just going to give us all something to work towards! For those of us that don’t make it by christmas (I will definitely be one of them!) we can still work towards getting as low as possible before that time…and then maybe New Years splits! Or Valentines splits!!
I’m splits training twice (sometimes three) times a week..so that’s intense stretching, and then every other day I’m just doing gentle stretches or foam rolling 🙂 -
well if it makes you guys feel better i haven’t made any amazing progress either. It’s hard because flexibility gains are so small…every mm is a mile! I’m thinking I might start asking the boy to measure how far away from the ground I am once a week, so I have a measurable number to go off. Otherwise I could actually be making progress but bc it’s so small I don’t think I am, if that makes sense?
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How is everyone going with their goals!? Just a reminder that it’s now only 5ish weeks to Christmas!!! SO MUCH progress can be made in that time!
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This is a really good one for strengthening the lower abs:
Start laying with your back on the floor, just in front of your pole, so your head is just slightly away from the base, and your arms are overhead, gripping the base of the pole. Because you want to use your abs, you don’t want to be tightly gripping with your arms. I kind of cup my hands around it then loosen my grip substantially so i’m barely even touching.
Then bring your knees into your chest and slowly roll your hips up, going no higher off the ground than your bra strap. then slowly control the roll down. this one burns if you do it right 🙂 -
You will be fine with a 40mm pole 🙂 We pole on 38mm at the studio here in Australia! I have some photos of my hands wrapped around my 40mm on my profile, and it overlaps a bit. it’s a lot easier to grip with your hands on a skinnier pole. I personally find leg grips a little challenging sometimes on the 38mm (like CAR), because i have skinny legs, but would be totally secure on my 40mm or larger. But you will get used to it 🙂
Can you not use the ceiling mount for a stationary pole? Have you spoken to x pole about this? It seems kind of silly, and I don’t see why it wouldn’t work. I have the ceiling mount bc my old place was exactly like you mention; one single beam running across the ceiling which was way too narrow for the dome. But I have the x-pert.
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Brass is quite a ‘dirty’ looking metal…tbh I think the photo looks normal, (based off what the poles at the studio I go to look like).
‘Red rot’ is the degradation of the alloy in the metal itself, and based on photos on google images, and from what i’ve seen from brass instruments at school, it doesn’t really look like red rot on your pole at all.
But if you’re concerned, send some photos to xpole, keep trying to get through them on the phone. They have excellent customer service. I had a few issues with my pole recently and they were more than helpful. Let us know how it goes! -
I think tucking makes the most sense. I say this, of course when I still can't do it hahahaha. But I feel it's less daunting because it would be easier to balance.
Okay so I think what I am doing is a 'cartwheel' because I am moving my head foward and down. How confusing. I will try to upload a video tomorrow!
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paying royalties is how you get around buying the rights.
The actual methods may be slightly different, but I think for the most part copyright has the same legal principles regardless of jurisdiction. (A quick google search tells me Sweden is pretty similar to Australian copyright law)
So let's assume you own the copyright in a piece of music (and it gets complicated here, because there's a few different types of copyright in each music piece). You have the right to prevent people from copying your work (e.g. illegal downloading comes into play here). You also have the right to control how your music is broadcast and who gets to listen to it.
The basic principle is that if you have worked hard on creating this great song, you should be able to have your rights protected so you can make some money off that song as a reward. So, in Australia there is an agency called APRA. If you plan to play music to the public (most common example is a retailer) then you pay APRA a fee every year and they give a portion of that fee to the musicians, or the copyright owners. So in this sense, you are "borrowing" the right to use that music. Because you don't actually own that right, does this make sense? If you did own the right, then you would be able to allow other people to play the music.
So if you want to play songs that are on the radio, you would need to pay a licencing fee to do so. If you just want to play music and don't care what it is, then I would look into asking local bands if you can play their stuff. This is the same principle; they are giving you the exclusive right themselves to play the music.
So, the above principles will apply, it will just be a matter as to who the agency is that you pay the licencing fee will be.
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Nope, just standard split grip. Don't know if I have the ab strength to lift into the twisted grip, and our teacher will only show us that one once we've got the normal split grip down.
I think I'm being told to tuck so that a) it's easier to balance and b) easier to get up and swivel those hips without worrying about what your legs are doing, until you have that balance and can then extend the legs.
if that makes sense?
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Is a half handspring when you hook the foot? At the moment, I can't even get upside down. We're taught to work on as soon as we swing that leg, and swivel the hips then tuck the legs so you're upside down in a little ball?
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I think I definitely will film a practice of this and upload it, maybe you guys can give me specific advice if I can't work it out for myself what i'm doing wrong.
I can do cartwheels on the ground, and have tried both sides. I'm stronger with dominant arm on top, but I can't do it on either side and have been trying both sides equally.
I guess everyone has their own idea of a nemesis move. I have plenty that I have not yet achieved and am still working on, but I don't count them as nemesis moves because I can understand what I need to do the move. It might be that i'm missing flexibility or it might be that I'm missing strength or it could be that I'm scared…but in every one of those moves I know what it is I can work on to get there. Of course I don't expect to get everything straight away! That would be silly!
Handspring is a nemesis I guess because I feel I still don't understand how it all clicks together…there's just so much going on, and I don't really 'get' what I'm not doing right.
But ! I will try all of these tips and upload a practice vid!
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It is very, very unlikely you would be able to buy the rights to a song. Firstly, there are many different types of copyright in one song. I'm guessing (as this is the spin off from the yt thread) that you would want to buy the rights to broadcast and disseminate the property amongst the public. Secondly, as someone else mentioned this can be incredibly expensive. Thirdly, it is unlikely someone would give you the rights to the work they created without getting anything out of it themselves…the reason bands give up some of their IP rights to record companies is because those record companies then help the band out with promoting etc. this is obviously a very oversimplified explanation
What you should do, depending on your actual cisrcumstances is look into paying royalties to use the song. For instance, most retailers would pay a fee to the relevant authorities each year. That authority (I am only familiar with Australian law, so I don't know the name of the American authority) would then give the money back to the artists as 'royalties' for their song being played. This is kind of like renting out the IP rights.
The other option you have, is one that Kobajo84 suggested and that is to get exclusive permission from the copyright holder to use their work. Smaller bands are usually more than happy to help out with this, becuase it means their songs get played and people get to listen to them. They're usually not in a bargaining position to demand royalty fees because they're not well known.
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Us Aussies apparently love the TG shoulder mount! I learnt the twisted grip hand position from my very first level, and did little "hitch kicks" in it, then slid that down to the floor. It was only after about a year and a half that I learned to shoulder mount into it, and by then the hand positioning was so natural to me, and I understood the amount of pull I needed my muscles to have for it to be safe.
When I was 15 I dislocated my shoulder and tore my rotator cuff. I could not move my arm any higher than parallel to the floor for about 2 years, with lots of rehab and physio in between. So ,because of that old injury I still have quite a lot of tightness in my shoulder muscles. and even I don't find it difficult, or likely that I will injure myself.
That being said, I have had a lot of practice building up to it, with my arms in the position. So I think it would be very different for someone not used to twisted grip to start off learning to handspring or shoulder mount with that grip. You have to learn to crawl before you can walk, and walk before you can run.
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I appreciate the concern abcollins, but paternalism is really frustrating.
But I'm not eating a mostly paleo diet because that's restrictive??? I have a history of an eating disorder, I do not currently have one. I mentioned it because my understandings of nutrition and what is needed was wrong for so many years. When I meant I want to stay lean, I was more just confirming that being in a surplus of calories (which I did already mention I am fine about as well..that is not a trigger for me because I have a better understandig of nutrition now) would still allow me to stay in the same shape I am…because it would be building muscle. But of course, calories are just calories. It of course makes more importance as to what those calories are coming from.
I just provided that information because I'm wondering if I get enough protein. I eat a lot of meat, my diet is pretty high in protein / fat, but I don't eat breakfast everyday (same as a lot of people!) so I recognise there is definitely nutrients missing there. Which is why I'm wondering if maybe a supplement would be beneficial to me, because of my lifestyle. I'm thinking I am going to start having smoothies for breakfast, because they are quick and easy. I know some people add some protein powder when they do this.
The whole point of this thread was for me to find out a little about what everyone else does, what brands they use, what their practice is like and then I know a little bit more about how people generally use the product and I can then decide whether or not it is something I am interested in researching further.
I have given details about how I currently eat / my lifestyle to see if other people experience similar things and have found whether or not it has added a level of convenience to their lives. I know nothing about protein powders…which is why I'm asking about them. I don't know enough about the industry to determine marketing from fact yet, which is why this forum was my first port of call.
It is frustrating to ask a question and then get answers like "We can't answer you because of your history." Like webmaster said…this is information that could be informative to a lot of people, and I am kind of bored of having to defend and explain what I previously said. I'm not asking for advice. I'm not asking what I should do. I'm asking what other people do. I am going to use this information to do further research. I want to kind of know what I talk about when I speak to other professionals, so I know the questions to ask. That is all.
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Oh guys, I didn't mean to cause an argument.
I am more or less recovered from my ED now, for about a year. Which, no, isn't a long time. I have had relapses previously when I've tried to recover, but the last time I relapsed I sought out treatment. And that's how I got to where I am today. I completely understand your hesitation abcollins1 with providing me with any advice and freaking out when people are telling me what they do. But I do have a team I can speak to if I feel like I am relapsing, which I can say right now I absolutely do not, ever want to go back down that path. I love being healthy and strong, and never want to go back to passing out all over the place, not to mention a zillion other health problems I had. However, as with most countries, although I have that team there if I need them, they are really expensive and have plenty of other patients to see. EDs do not get a lot of medical resources here. So I would not waste their time, per se, with something not specifically related to my ED.
that being said, I'm merely asking how everyone else has gone, trying to get a starting point for my research into this. I'm not asking what I should do. I'm asking what everyone else has done, and has found works for them. I'm asking about supplements, not replacements. I want to gather some information about what things mean and just wrap my head around it before doing further research. I thought this forum would be a good place to start.
Also, to nymphdancer, yes a pound is a pound is a pound regardless of the substance. But muscle weights more than fat per volume. I was more just getting at the point I am around the same size I was before I started getting ripped (lol) but I probably weigh a hell of a lot more now. Regardless, I don't know (or want to know) my weight. But logically I know it would probably be high because I have a lot of muscle now.
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For me, knowing my weight was a massive trigger and a massive problem. So I choose not to have a scale at home. I choose to not know how much I weigh. So gaining little bits here and there is a lot easier for me to manage. Especially because muscle weighs more than fat. I probably weigh more now than I ever have, but I have a lot more muscle now. Anyway, point is; I do not concern myself with how much I weigh. Because that is not healthy for me.
I am fine with increasing my calories if that's needed to build muscle (which makes sense, but I hadn't though about before until I read it here tbh), and I was just clarifying if taking shakes would be a convenient way to do that, especially because I don't eat breakfast (not an ED thing).
I think I will maybe try adding it to my diet after my pole workouts and see if I notice a difference. I just want to make sure I'm providing my body with what it needs. Obviously food is the ideal way to do that, but I get home so much later after my class, I want something for in between then.
My understanding is as well that shakes / powders would be better than bars, which are very high in sugar?
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I am at a healthy weight currently, and I could probably gain a little more and still be okay with it. I am lucky that I had a great therapist, who has taught me to identify if I feel I will relapse, and I am comfortable getting help. I am at the point where I love being healthy, and I love my new body shape. Of course I have 'off days', but so does everyone.
I just thought I'd mention it because it's not going to be as easy as eating / consuming an extra whatever amount of calories a day, as it would be for some others, it is something I would have to plan and slowly introduce..which is fine.
I am eating "normally" atm, (apart from breakfast but that's something I am definitely working on..it's more a convenience issue) so I'm not really asking if I can rely on the shakes to make up calories, but if it would be able to supplement my current diet?
If that makes sense? Sorry, I don't mean to get defensive. I detected a lot of concern in your post, and I really appreciate that but I do have a team of pros who can help me out if I need it (and I would seek that advice!) 🙂
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My boyfriend does all the cooking, and grocery shopping so to a large extent, he influences my diet and we do eat a pretty protein-rich diet (mostly paleo).
I'm just wondering if the supplements would make it more convenient? Like, if I finish pole class at 9.15pm, I won't get home until 10, won't have dinner until at least 10.30…and from what I've read and understand, you're supposed to refuel your muscles straight after a workout? So it's not like I expect to take these powders / supplements and magic will happen.
I guess as well, I don't know if I'm taking in enough calories to build up a lot of muscle. I very rarely eat breakfast (although I am trying to work on this one… so tricky when you can't eat bread and don't like cereal!) so I'm sure I'm missing out on energy intake there.
It's tricky because I am technically still in recovery for an eating disorder I had for 5+ years. (by in recovery, I mean the same way an alcoholic would say they are in recovery…I am fine now, but I still have thoughts sometimes…I can just deal with them better and not act on them now) I've put on a little weight recently (although I don't know my numbers I can just feel it / not see bones I used to see) and while I'm still learning to cope with that and love my muscles (which I do!) I don't want to gain fat unnecessarily…if that makes sense? I want to stay lean. So that is a long and convoluted way of asking, would adding protein supplements help with getting extra calories in, in a convenient way, like right after class? And I would probably be better off going with one that is low carbs and definitely low-no sugar?
Thanks so much for the brand recommendations guys!
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EEEk guys I uploaded my starting point… I'm so, so, so far away 🙁
https://www.studioveena.com/photos/view_photo/5239973b-b998-4e1f-9316-3dd90ac37250
