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Good luck! Just a word of caution – I've auditioned in (and danced in) many clubs around the US and you should know that you only might be able to do pole tricks in the club. Even if they have a pole (some clubs don't) it can be extremely slippery. Many of the girls who dance in clubs wear quite a bit of lotion and no amount of cleaning will get it completely off the pole. Also, many clubs have poles that are not securely attached or are scarily flexible. So I would recommend definitely testing the pole out with some really simple moves before doing anything even as complex as a basic invert. I don't want to discourage you – I just don't want to see you get hurt or plan your entire audition around pole tricks only to find when you get up there that you can't do them.
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I couldn't find the silicone pole on X-pole's website. Are they going to be similar to the pole sleeves that have been sold for a while or is the pole it's self coated in silicone?
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Studio Veena is the top of the list for me. Seems like I'm always seeing something on here that I have to try. For example – the link you gave to the flexibility page was awesome. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
Other than that it's really random. Sometimes it's something a friend posts on my facebook page or following the rabbit hole of you tube videos but Studio Veena is the only pole site that I follow consistently.
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You're right that if you have to kick hard to get into an invert you're probably not ready for it yet. Climbs, pole sits, Crucifix, handstand against the pole and then going into reverse crucifix, are just some ideas of things you can work on before an invert. Once you're comfortable going from a handstand into reverse crucifix and hanging there you can wrap your body around the pole hang on and slowly release your legs into a V and then lower as slowly as possible to the ground. This will help build strength for inverting from a standing position. Grip strength is also something that has to be built up over time. You could be sliding down because your hands aren't strong enough yet.
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I agree that it depends on what you want to get out of it. If you go into it knowing that it's not a pole competition and that pole tricks may or may not even be possible on the club's pole (and you may not find that out until you get up on stage if the girl before you wears a lot of lotion) then you'll probably be fine.
Everyone here has given good advice. Find out the rules/policies of club and the amateur night in advance. Are you going to be required to take off a certain amount of clothing?(I've seen it vary from topless required to fully nude required) Is the stage pole spinning or static? Can it even be used? As kasanya said the poles may be too unstable to be climbed on or may have lotion on them. I've definitely experienced poles that had so many years of body lotion and oils on them that you couldn't clean them enough to get a good grip.
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I agree that it depends on what you want to get out of it. If you go into it knowing that it's not a pole competition and that pole tricks may or may not even be possible on the club's pole (and you may not find that out until you get up on stage if the girl before you wears a lot of lotion) then you'll probably be fine.
Everyone here has given good advice. Find out the rules/policies of club and the amateur night in advance. Are you going to be required to take off a certain amount of clothing?(I've seen it vary from topless required to fully nude required) Is the stage pole spinning or static? Can it even be used? As kasanya said the poles may be too unstable to be climbed on or may have lotion on them. I've definitely experienced poles that had so many years of body lotion and oils on them that you couldn't clean them enough to get a good grip.
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I agree with everyone here too. My husband isn't really into pole at all. He doesn't care if I do it – but it sort of annoys him when I ask him to spot me on some difficult move or watch a youtube video that I think is amazing. It's my thing – not his. He's a gunsmith and, while I can appreciate the work and knowledge it must take to fix a 100 year old gun for which they don't even make parts anymore, I'm really glad he doesn't want me to watch him do it. I would be insanely bored! I think he views pole the same way. Our deal is: he encourages me to go out and do pole with other people (I actually go down to the Madison WI area not infrequently for that) so that I have them to talk to/do pole with instead of him. I do the same for him with gunsmithing.
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I did perform! I did the routine to the Kid Rock "All Summer Long" song. I wore a cowboy hat, cutoff shorts and a bikini top for my routine (figured the outfit might be more memorable than the song https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif). I unfortunately couldn't make it to the pole jam though.
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Thanks for the information! I sent her the link to the studio list. LindaLu – did you preform at the Wisconsin Pole Showcase at the beginning of May? I think I met you there. I'll definitely send her the information for your studio – I don't know how far she's willing to travel.
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She said that anything east and north is good. Sounds like distance isn't really an issue.
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Have you tried other grip variations? I find that when I teach this the elbow grip is often the hardest for students, and the one that they master last. I usually start with a split grip aysha which is entered from extended butterfly – but without dropping the leg back over the head away from the pole. Looking at your video it seems like you can go into the move just fine – but it's the balance once you get there that's the big issue. Another thing to try that might help with the elbow grip aysha is, once you're in the catapillar with your hands (well, hand and elbow) propperly positioned, rather than just pushing off the pole into the V, slowly straighten your legs keeping them in contact with the pole. This will push your butt away from the pole and put you in a more stable position before you open your legs to remove them from the pole.
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I do have a dance background (ballet, tap, jazz) and I don't dance or teach by counts. I teach a series of movements and then the students can do it as fast or as slowly as they like. I really like the idea of trying the same sequence with different songs. I'm going to have to start incorporating that! I feel like pole is about moving when the music moves you and everyone dancing their own dance. And I tell my students I want them to learn to think through the moves themselves and do what works for them rather than trying to just copy the way I dance.
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I tried learning it with the Veena grip, but I was so much more comfortable with the double cup grip that I use that now. I learned it with a mat and a spotter. Somehow it seemed easier to me from standing rather than from kneeling.
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I've poled topless plenty of times when I've been working at clubs. Never nude. There are some places that I want to KNOW aren't going to stick to the pole. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif Plus, in most clubs it's considered extremely rude (if not downright forbidden) to get onto the pole once your underwear are off.
I actually never pole at home topless because that would somehow make my fun, for me poling like work and I don't want to do that.
