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I know it can all be kind of crazy. I think the part that most blows my mind is how 'easy' it is to do if you keep everything under the radar. Once a person tries to stay on the up and up, it's like it never ends. If I decide to get insurance, then it starts to make sense to distance your personal assets from that liability, so create a company to do so. Once you have created a company, you've kind of made operating it on the down low technically harder to do, especially on paper (and the paperwork!). Violating the lease isn't a problem until one of my neighbors thinks the music is too loud and reports me. It just goes on and on.
Many many studios operate very loosely, because there isn't a lot of money in operating a studio, and conforming to all the laws just on the business side of things, not to mention the rent, equipment, teachers, and marketing, etc can really demolish the start up fund.
Teaching under the table isn't the worst that could happen. Someone really hurting themselves (big problem), and their insurance company digging into things can become a problem. Liability would be my biggest concern. I guess I wouldn't expect that teaching under the table would consist of things like insurance, appropriate technique or safety knowledge, or necessarily good instruction. It could, but I personally wouldn't bank on it. Same goes for studios, actually.
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To be a bit of a devil's advocate here, even the best teachers have students who injure themselves in their class. A teacher, even the best of the best, can't control the student entirely. (This is why insurance is a good thing, and typically, teaching out of your house incurs a certain amount of liability which your homeowners will not usually cover.) But good teachers definitely have the awareness to nip bad technique in the bud, keep safety first, and bring the right learning attitude to the class. I can't tell you how many times I have seen students push the no pain no gain attitude, but they can't recognize the difference in the pain of effort vs the pain of injury.
It's a sticky situation, to be teaching. To some degree, you protect yourself with getting insurance, setting up an LLC or company, getting a certificate etc. etc. But by the time you have done all of that you are behind money and time-wise. Plus other things can come up, ie, I can't teach out of my apartment, running a business there is a violation of the lease terms. So I would either have to do it under the table, or find a studio. Good studios will require a certain amount of training, likely won't have prime times available to you, and might need you to function as a subcontractor (more paperwork) so they can cover their asses. If someone just lets you walk right in and teach with no effort on their part, they probably aren't running a tight ship. Which isn't a problem usually, until something bad happens. Pretty much none of it is a problem, until something bad happens.
Suddenly, a few lessons on the side for pocket money become you losing money and time. I would agree with some of the other posters, if you just want a little pocket money, it would be really hard to do with teaching pole if you want to jump through all the hoops to do it right and make the time commitment. If it's a passion for you, go for it. If you just want to trade some time for working out pole with a friend for something they have, I wouldn't go crazy. But since you are advertising teaching pole, make sure you are capable of doing so, and doing so safely.
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I will have to try the nail glue! I have a pair of vivids that I haven't been able to keep the soles on, but I love them, so I haven't gotten rid of them. Hopefully, it will work and I can resurrect my favorite shoes 🙂
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Haha, though I wouldn’t think the filters were safe at all. Bottom line, most of us have probably lived in a house or gone to a school or other public building with asbestos in it. It’s something that is good to be informed about, but also not freak out about unless the asbestos is damaged.
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Well, when asbestos was made illegal in specific building products, it only made manufacturing those products illegal. So anything that was made prior to that mandate remained in use. Building materials get stockpiled, because like anything else, they don’t get used if there was extra, or a project goes belly up prior to completion, and they don’t typically go ‘bad’ etc. Those materials don’t just disappear. They end up in a warehouse somewhere, and when someone wants to cut corners, they buy cheap surplus.
Roofing materials can be a bit different. Going into any Lowe’s or Home Depot, you can find asbestos in almost all the roof patch. Because its a sticky tar, it’s damn near impossible to get the material friable. Plus, the percentage is also usually quite low.
As long as it’s intact, asbestos is really good for its intended uses, primarily insulation, surfacing materials like fireproofing, floor tiles, mastics, roofing materials etc. the list goes on and on. They even used to use asbestos in cigarette filters back in the day! -
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Basically any ceiling joist should be fine. I always just find the joist the closest to the center of the room, mark it out with painter's tape, and ensure that that the dome mount is centered directly over that joist. I have only mounted poles in newer construction, wallboard type situations, so I have never had problems finding joists. Joists can be somewhat easy to find, and depending on the age of the house anywhere from 16 to 24 inches apart. Often the joists themselves are about 1.5 inches wide. Hope that helps.
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OK, so not having seen your situation (some inspections legally require that the inspector touch the materials!), please know that I can only really provide general information. Roofing materials and ceiling materials are not the same. So, if I understand what you have said, the asbestos is present in the roofing materials, as in, the exterior? You would be screwing the polemount into an exposed wooden beam from the interior (and not all the way through the beam)?
Just generally based off this information without having seen the actual situation firsthand, this does not sound like a problem. Typically, the exposed beam on the interior would not be in contact with the asbestos roofing materials, as the roofing is likely laid on a plywood decking, laid over the ceiling beams. There are many types of asbestos roofing materials, from the nicollete paper to roofing tar, so I cannot tell you any specifics, because I do not know about your particular roofing system. However, if you are permanently mounting a pole on a beam, there should be no movement of said beam at all. I would not think this situation, as I understand it, would be a problem for the roofing materials, assuming roofing and beam you want to use are in good shape, not leaking, rotten, falling in, etc.
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I used to be an asbestos building inspector, so I have run into this before. Do you know for sure that the ceiling materials contain asbestos? If so, what is the material?
One thing to remember about asbestos, if it's in good condition, it's typically not a hazard. It's when it get disturbed that it becomes hazardous. If you know it's asbestos, I would advise against disturbing the material by drilling into it. Drilling into the ceiling would constitute a disturbance, which would in fact, have the potential to release asbestos fibers.
Houses do not have to be old to contain asbestos-containing building materials, especially friable ones. Due to stock piling, I have found asbestos in buildings that were built in 1996.
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You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough. — Mae West
Go for it! Trying and failing is second only to trying and succeeding. Not trying will only keep you right where you are, and it sounds like that is the last place you want to be. You can do it!
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*Blaze oops!
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Maybe look in to Devil's Point (rock n roll), or Dancin' Bare (home of one of the best signs ever but definitely blue collar). Not too sure of how dive-y those are, or how good for dancers.
Classic Portland would be Acropolis or Mary's. Though Acropolis is kind of out there in southeast and Mary's is in downtown. Blazer works at Mary's, at least, she used to.
I know Union Jacks is supposed to be really cool. I'm not exactly up to date on the clubs in Portland, but thought I would add those. Someone on here probably know much much more.
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When I started pole, roughly 6-7 years ago, I never thought I would perform/compete. I just wanted to take a dance class in an environment where I wouldn't be put on the spot for having absolutely zero dance technique. As a result, for the first couple of years, I really enjoyed free dancing at the end of class with the other students, but never wanted to do a recital. My pole journey purely about me and my attempts to define my movement quality and learn how to express myself through my body and its movement. It wasn't until about two years ago that I performed pole for an audience. I loved it! Thought it was very stressful for me to choreograph, etc. I found through aerial that I really enjoyed performance and that spilled over into pole. I have submitted video for a couple of competitions, but I have not gotten in to any. I think I enjoy performing more than I would enjoy competing. Though I am a very competitive person generally.
Pole is what you make it. If you never want to compete, then 'never' is a valid answer to the question 'when are you going to compete?'. 🙂 Same for performance. By all means, if you want to do either, you should! There are lots of opportunities to compete at many levels, so pursue it for sure if you want to! I don't think you need to wait on anything if you feel safe and you find a competition that meets your needs.
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I can do that, thank you!
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Yep I do have the 40. And I did not really explain my situation very well. It does not matter to me whether the cover drops to the base, what I had meant to write was that it doesn't drop to the bearing unit. In fact, it doesn't move at all. I can't move the adjuster cover in pretty much any direction, up or down. It has scratched up the pole a little bit, and because it doesn't go up and down, it does affect the set up because I can only adjust the pole to where it's currently stuck. Instead of moving the adjuster cover up and screwing it onto the bottom of A pole, I have to screw A pole into the adjuster cover. Because of this, there is less wiggle room with adjusting the pole and setting up.
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Dang, no dice. 🙁 I am not sure what the deal is with my pole.
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Thanks Chem! I tried looking through the forums, but I was using my phone and not making much headway. 🙂
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Just wondering, as I have had a question about the adjuster cover as well, though a little different, has anyone had trouble with the adjuster cover getting stuck up? I can unscrew mine from the A-pole, but it will not drop down to the base. I have contacted x-pole and am waiting to hear back, but I thought I would check with you ladies. 🙂
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I love both static and spin, though I gravitate towards spin pole generally and the few times I have performed, it was always on spinning pole. They are two different beasts, both being a good workout. As always, you get out what you put in. And they do complement each other training-wise very well. For example, being able to invert on a spinning pole makes inverting on static feel better. At least, that was my experience. I also found that spinning pole brings more creativity to my transitions than static. But that is my personal experience. As a poler, I am so so so happy that poles come in both spin and static!
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Chem, not sure about the pests but tonight on my way home I saw a bunny hopping across the road, so there’s that. Not too sure about deer, I guess I shall see!
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Chem, not sure about the pests but tonight on my way home I saw a bunny hopping across the road, so there’s that. Not too sure about deer, I guess I shall see!
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Ladies thanks so much for the advice! I am only renting, so I will probably keep with what they have, but believe me, it will keep me busy.
Haha buying and killing plants. That’s definitely been my MO.
Mostly it’s figuring out watering and how to care for the perennials year round. I do not have much experience but am kind of excited to learn. Community classes sound like an awesome idea.
And PDR, I love your passion for gardening! My mother and grandmother are pretty avid gardeners. I should definitely pick their brains a bit more, as well. Though my mom’s focus on gardening is a lot more with edibles. And you touched on one of my passions, rhubarb! I seriously had rhubarb withdrawals when I lived in Hawaii. Almost paralyzing.
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Cool, thanks for the info! ooo I forgot about daffodils! I love those! There are a ton of rose bushes in my yard. Probably around 15 bushes, in varying states of establishment. I think the renters prior to me were not much for yard work. I noticed that a lot of the plants don't appear to have been taken care of to ensure blooming, etc. I even have a cherry, peach, apple, and pear trees! I really want to get some fruits from these if I can!
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I can't even imagine. This is so heart-rending. 🙁
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That Shimmy video is awesome! I love that she posted that. While I have only performed pole a couple of times, I have performed trapeze and silks many times, and every performance is different. There's always something. Sometimes the apparatus gets stuck in the rig and you have to switch sides of the stage and re-rig in a heart beat, or the musicians don't wait for you, or they misread your cues and cut your piece really short. Sometimes the sound system doesn't work, multiple times in a row. Sometimes I am just not on my game and do something stupid that looks really really bad. I loved getting a chance for each and every performance. I think you're performance was probably just fine 🙂 Especially if the only thing that went wrong was the very end. I have noticed that when things go wrong for me in performance, they usually aren't the tough things I have been rehearsing to death. They are usually the easy things that I don't spend time focusing on, because its so easy I don't ever think it will be a problem.
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I know! They are kind of crazy looking. I think someone commented on the one you posted from discount dance that when they saw it they could only think of a wood chipper. Terrifying.
