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I think for the one leg at a time version, you need to have your hips away from the pole a bit, to give you that kind of room like Amy talks about. I side climb that way on one side and side climb the two legs at once way on my other side because each works best on the respective sides, I don't know why. For the two legs at once, I brace my inside/lower arm grip against my forearm and use it to help push out, which seems to work quite well.
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Ah funny, I was about to post about this too 'cos it's my current project move too!! I used Marion's tutorial as a guide but went in from a BM instead of the layback because I find it a bit more secure. I've managed to get to a position that I feel like is the right one and can remove my hand but have only got pics of my not so good ones. What I seem to be struggling with is not so much balancing but looking at the photos, the pole is not quite in the right position across my butt/back (in the photo, it kinda lines up with half way along one butt cheek when I should be more sideways and the pole past the butt towards my back) and I'm not sure if it's just because it's not my good version or if I'm just wrong in general!! There's a good thread here on SV with tips in it too – just do a search:)
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Ooh I hope those ladies at least post their dress rehearsal-y vids! I love Michelle's stuff especially:)
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I hate to say it but some of that might actually be pole muscle, which, of course, you don't want to get rid of! I notice that now when I try on new bras, I get what I call my "pole wings" – a certain amount of overhang shall we say. I have a certain amount of jubbliness elsewhere but my back is fairly trim in that area, so while some of it might be a bit o' fat, I'm fairly sure the rest is muscle (I also asked some of the girls in one of my pole classes and they said they have the same problem!). Pole dancer problems
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My boyf is a poler – I took him along to an open night at my studio one time and I could see him eyeing up the pole so encouraged him to give it a go. A couple of years down the track and he loves it as much as I do! He's performed in shows and is looking at entering one of the national comps next year. I can vouch first hand that the boy's got some serious muscle going now! I also know a couple of other guys that go to one of my studios and my class at the other studio I go to has at least 3 boys in it at the mo'. Pole for boys is definitely fluourishing in my city! In some ways I find the vast range of kinds of boy poling (ie how they choose to do it) to be more interesting than the range of girls!
fyi Trixie, I asked him about the Chippendales thing and he said no, 'cos he's not pretty enough:)
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I recognised the dancers in a fair few of the clips but the one who was shown the most, the one in the skin coloured outfit, can anyone pick who that was?
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Oh I love that sideways leg extension that he does from a brass monkey right near the beginning – I wonder how hard it is??
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This is my number one nemesis move, even after more than 5 years of poling and knowing everything there is to know about what I should be doing, I've only ever actually managed to do it about 3 times (to be fair, I don't really work on it either but it's still frustrating when I do try it!!).
Anyway, my failure aside, I would direct you to the wise almighty Aerial Amy's blog for she has done a Tips entry about it:) http://aerialamy.com/blog/2012/06/28/cupid/
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I'm pretty bad with some of that balancing too, more the straight edge stuff than the straddle stuff. I sometimes wonder if it's because I carry a fair amount of weight through my legs but I also think I just need a real mental switch to think about what needs to be engaged and also my body has a pretty strong sense of preservation so that often I'm already starting to lean in the direction of coming down before I even get to the right position – if this may be the case with you, sometimes getting a spotter to gently guide you in the right direction can help retrain your body not to do this; I find it helps sometimes anyway. With the upside down stuff, I know Aerial Amy has talked before about the "hollow body" position (I forget whether it was on here or on her blog) that you use to help with the balance – might be worth looking up:)
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There's a good point! If they are around, pls add me! http://www.youtube.com/user/Sassafrassle?feature=guide
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Anyone know if these booty tutorials are still around??
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Oh oh lucky I saw this, thanks for the name drop Saphyre! Trena, Pole Revolutionz sounds like exactly what you want for your friend! It's run by Amy Richardson (you can find her on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/user/chocolateforbreakie) who is a beautiful dancer and just floats around the pole! She is also a super lovely woman:) Anyway, the only catch is her studio isn't in the city centre and I'm not entirely sure the public transport situation for getting there. Just googled the website though http://polerevolutionz.weebly.com/ so get her to drop them a message to ask anyway. I know there are other studios up in AKL but I've had most contact with Amy (I've done classes with her here in Wellington and up in AKL when we visit) and she is a beautiful dancer with a fluid style so as a dancer, this may suit your friend:) Also, let your friend know that the New Zealand Amateur Pole Performer competition finals are being held in Auckland in August and she should check out going to see it if she's keen! Amy will be competing in the open category so she could see her style first hand:)
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(and we're in New Zealand so recommending brands won't really work but hopefully my descriptions of the different lengths helps!!)
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Well, my boy uses what we call rugby shorts or stubbies, which hit him about mid-thigh I guess and they don't really gape but they're not super tight either. I know several other guy polers and one wears longer shorts (a bit more like board shorts I think) but that's 'cos he does more strength than grip moves so doesn't need the skin grip (both he and my boy will roll them up on occasion if need be). Boys at the other studio I go to wear much more like short/tight undie kind of shorts but I guess it depends what your man is comfortable in. I would think it's like when we start – you start in longer shorts when you're new and less comfortable and doing more things where it doesn't matter as much what length your shorts are but as you do more and get on to harder things, and get more comfortable with yourself in shorts, you adjust to what works for the moves you're doing:)
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I'm asking my boyf who is a poler and sitting beside me right now:)
-Not difficult to climb with non-shaved legs or any more painful than it would be for those of us who do shave our legs
-Smashing your boy bits on the pole is not an issue except for moves where you might have to grab with the insides of your thighs (eg. pole sits etc) but you do need to be careful and do moves lower down your thighs if poss.
-Strength moves=easier, flexibility stuff=harder:)
-Advice: put at least some time into things that are a bit more difficult for you eg skin grip moves (ie. not just strength moves) because, while they will be painful, it gives you a bit more versatility down the track.
Hope this helps! He also says as a final piece of advice: if you like it, do it:)
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As a performer and a pole show frequenter, I think a gentle woooo and clapping is good for a performer when they do something worth woooo-ing about – in fact, I am also in the camp that if a pole audience is quiet, I'd be worried during one of my performances! What I don't understand though is the increasingly predilection of some people to screech like banshees throughout the ENTIRE performance! That's when it stops meaning anything and actively impinges on other people's rights as audience members. That's my opinion anyway!
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Hm I went and looked at my latest pic and I’m not really chest to ceiling like it sounds you’re describing (I have a pic of my position in my pole practice folder on my profile) but is def a controlled lift as far a I get-I don’t think I could do it with momentum because I have to focus so hard on engaging that I need to do it from the get go
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Hm I went and looked at my latest pic and I’m not really chest to ceiling like it sounds you’re describing (I have a pic of my position in my pole practice folder on my profile) but is def a controlled lift as far a I get-I don’t think I could do it with momentum because I have to focus so hard on engaging that I need to do it from the get go
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Oops, that should read stopping ME:)
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I'm a couple of centimetres shorter than you and I've been trying to work towards it but can only get the hang:( I'm not really as svelte through the legs as you two ladies though so just assumed it was the muscley heaviness of my legs stopping you but maybe I've got the double whammy of heavy legs and tallness, woe! 🙂 And while I'm trying to work towards it, I have yet to see someone with a similar build to me do it I think…
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I second the recommendation for trying yoga’s bow pose- I find the lock comes more from the ‘bowing’ of your legs than just grabbing them per se. So think if you were on the ground, you’re not just having hand meet ankle then leaving thighs limply on the ground, you’re engaging your whole leg and trying to lift your thighs as well, while pushing your ankles strongly into your hands. What works for me anyway!:)
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Woo hoo, mentioned on Yahoo NZ homepage! http://nz.entertainment.yahoo.com/news/article/-/13897181/lulu-wows-americas-got/
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I think part of the problem with things like chopsticks is that it's strength as well as flexibility to be able to pull your legs up into position (I guess it's strength in the hip flexors especially but maybe quads and/or hammies as well?). I have long had front and back splits and on a good day, could probably push to a bit of an oversplit on the ground when I have something to brace against but pulling up into a good chopsticks is a bit beyond me because (I think) my flexors aren't quite strong enough. My 2 cents worth anyway, not sure if this helps!
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(^^holding=poling)
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No matter how long I've been holding, no matter how many similar moves I can do, and no matter how much excellent advice I get, I STILL can't do the cupid! Please don't tell me it's all in the hips, I already know that:) One time when my flexibility works against me! There was one incandescent day several years ago when I did it once brilliantly and that was a magical moment but the elusive cupid has not been seen since *sob*…
Also, the Marion Amber is still proving elusive but I'm hoping that at least one of the pole people I see when I'm overseas next month will be able to help with that!
