HollySatine
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I totally agree – this happens to me all the time, especially with spins because in order to do most of them correctly you're relying on very exact muscle movements, timing, and placement that you don't have to worry quite as much about with moves that require mostly friction and strength. In general, this will all become easier as you find your "sweet spots" for each move you learn, but you will probably always run into this problem as long as you're learning new moves. 🙂
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Thanks for the advice everyone! I ordered Tite Grip and it should be arriving some time today!
Joyful – what kind of maintenance is required for a brass pole? I've been daydreaming about what I would get if I upgraded my pole or got a second pole and have been swaying towards brass but wouldn't want it to be a hassle to keep…
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mine is HollySatine but I'm not putting any of my own vids on there for now – however i do have a ton of favorited and liked pole and dance vids if anyone is looking for inspiration
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While they didn't throw around the term "stripper" for sensation like some other shows do, I thought it was a little – off? – when they did mention it ("And you've never been a stripper – at all…" "Nooooooooooo…") because I couldn't help but thinking about the other talented women (Karol Helms comes to mind) who have been strippers and yet are also competitive and take the sport very seriously. It's just a shame because while pole dancing has been getting more national media attention lately, I feel like every show segment I've seen has had to make the distinction that no, this girl who is doing all of these amazing tricks on the pole for us is NOT IN ANY WAY affiliated with anything "taboo."
But I guess that's the only way people watching these shows will accept it right now? – it has to be PG…even though plenty of other forms of dance can be just as sensual and yet they don't come with a stigma…shame.
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You can try sock glue or body glue 🙂 it's kind of annoying for everyday use but I used it for a performance once and it worked great:
http://www.compressionsale.com/it-stays-body-adhesive-2oz.html?gclid=CK-44YvH2KgCFcV95Qod7C7oew
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i just found this floorwork video on youtube and thought i'd post it here in case it might inspire anyone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztKu4_MdqOQ&feature=feedrec_grec_index
🙂
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I haven't had much negative experience with criticism because I have never really danced for groups (or posted any vids on YT) before. But I do want to broaden my horizons as a dancer because I can see myself coming back to the same go-to moves when I am free-dancing. Lately I've been really intrigued by modern dance both for itself and when it's incorporated into pole routines, so I'll be taking Modern I at my university next semester in order to get a new perspective and learn some new moves! I am also motivated by the fact that while I wouldn't mind performing a sexier routine, I want to have a wider variety of moves in my repertoire so that I can better control and filter out the sexy stuff when I want to (like in routines I'd like to show my parents!).
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I have this mat! I love it and feel very secure whenever I use it. The only problem I have is that the flap that is supposed to conceal the velcro doesn't completely cover it, but it's the soft side and not the scratchy part that faces up so it's not a big deal – I might have just gotten a defective one. Other than that though, I highly recommend it! It was the best deal I could find also when I was looking for a crash mat.
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"I wonder if I can do a invert on that?"
haha I don't know if there's a day this doesn't go through my mind! Unfortunately I don't think any of the playgrounds near where I currently live have poles the right size, and it's rare to find a street sign that isn't made with one of those square metal posts that have the holes running down the sides (although I did find one and have a picture of a ckr on it on my profile!). Lately on my way home at night I've been walking up to young trees and shaking them a bit to see how sturdy they are…I'm sure I look like a crazy person! ;b
And of course, the rest of this list is completely true too!!! 😀
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sounds like the grip felix uses to shoulder mount – why is that considered cheating?
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Have you tried the Veena grip? It's in her shoulder mount lesson and is much easier on your wrists – I hadn't been able to do a shoulder mount and while I can't do it now consistently I did get into it using this grip (and I thought it would take me at least another several months to get it). You stand with your back to the pole and a little to the side with the pole resting on the back of your shoulder near your face (like normal) but instead of cupping both hands behind the pole you only cup your inside hand around the back, and you wrap your outside hand around the front above the hand that is cupped. Does that make sense? With the outer hand gripping the pole in front it keeps your collar bone away from the pole because you have more control and are using a different kind of arm strength. Of course, Veena explains it a lot better than I can…
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the site that UTpoler posted also has a link to this info page with different exercises you can do:
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Cinara – what is a respect grip?
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thanks for the responses!
@JeHanne – that's about what I'm thinking of doing too – the studio offers either an intro week (7 consecutive days) or an intro month (30 consecutive days) for new students starting with your first class, but you have to pick one before you really know what it's going to be like (if you take just one class you won't be a "new student" and won't get the discounted rate)…i figured a week wouldn't be long enough to see any results and committing to a month right away is a little intimidating for it being something I've never done before…
do you feel like it helped your pole work at all?
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thanks for the insight, stoneycook! 🙂
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Sorry, I had started another similar post recently and didn't really clarify in this one – the only reason I'm trying to stay away from the "girly" stuff (although I agree with Eva – you can make anything girly or manly) is that I will be teaching guys who aren't already terribly interested in pole dancing (yet!) – I'm hosting an event for a co-ed fraternity and since I'm trying to attract as many people as possible (both guys and girls) I'm just trying to be sensitive to the fact that most people who don't know all the facts about pole dancing have preconceived notions about it – and frankly, I'm surprised I have any guys interested in the first place. So, I don't want to scare any of them off! lol although I will be sure to add at least a spin or two to the list… 🙂
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone!
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Woohoo!!! It looks great!!! 😀
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I LOVE the idea – it will make referencing moves SO much easier!
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I am the exact same way!!! It makes the cross ankle release really difficult for me because I can't turn my knees in enough to get better grip without them overlapping – grrr!
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I tend to avoid news stories and videos about stuff like this because sometimes I can't help but be annoyed despite however neutral the program tries to seem, and I think like the negitivity I feel towards some of the comments made in the video is largely due to media spin and editing. For example, when one woman in the video said "Are you doing it for sex in exhange for money, you know, what are you doing it for?" my initial thought was, what?! why would you think that?? you're obviously super ignorant if you don't think that hanging upside down from a pole isn't a workout – that's what they're doing it for, not sex trafficking! And then I thought, well she could have easily been saying "I think it's a great idea but some people might have this misconception…" in the part that was cut out. I think even when the news program wants to appear neutral, they probably cut things together in a way that will polarize viewers and fuel debate on both sides… which seems a little underhanded if you ask me.
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I haven't started learning those moves yet but what it sounds like (if you have set up your pole correctly and the cover is as tight as it can be) is, since you mentioned that using your left hand only tightens the cover, maybe your grip isn't strong enough yet to keep your weight from shifting, causing the hand on the cover to rotate a little (or enough at least to loosen the cover)? I know there are some moves where I can feel myself rotating because I can't keep my weight totally balanced, and since you are just learning these two moves maybe you have a similar problem?
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will do. thanks!
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Nevermind about not feeling the tackiness, I feel it now – but I'm still sweating right through it and it doesn't give me any grip. Other suggestions anyway?
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I totally understand how you feel because I've been there. When I was in high school, I did Irish dance with my best friend (I got her into it originally). The thing about it, though, was that we were literally competing against each other – to advance to the next level, you had to earn it by entering a competition and dancing better than all the other girls, and only the top couple dancers would be able to advance to compete in a higher level. In other words, you could learn "Advanced Beginner" level steps, but you couldn't call yourself an Advanced Beginner technically if you didn't place in competition. Anyway, it came to a point where she improved faster (despite hardly ever practicing) and got into a higher level, and I became so frustrated because I was constantly stuck below her that I stopped enjoying it for a long time before I eventually quit. I came to dread the class (despite being in different levels we continued to be taught in the same dance class) and after a while I gave it up because going had become unhealthy. On top of all that, despite not taking my frustration out on my best friend, we grew apart for various reasons and our friendship became strained.
There are several things I wish I could have changed about the whole ordeal, but now, I feel like pole dancing more than fills the void I felt after quitting Irish dance – plus, I can now do things that would amaze my high school friend if she saw them (and I'm stronger and more muscular than she is now too!). I'd like to think I'm more mature now and don't get jealous as easily as I used to, but unfortunately I think that would be a lie. We can't help what we feel, but we can help how we handle the situation. I have a very good friend who gave me the info that got me into pole, but when I decided to start taking pole classes and she didn't think it was for her, I didn't push her into doing it anyway – I knew better from experience and (maybe selfishly) didn't want to end up feeling sorry I'd made her try the class if she turned out to be a lot better than me. For some reason, it's a lot easier to be supportive of someone you don't know than a close friend, especially if you start at the same level…
I would say that getting a pole at home is the best thing you can do for yourself. And while you're at it, if you're inverting then a pole mat is also a great investment. You'll find that the safer you feel learning new moves, the faster you'll improve. And what's great about poling at home is that you can look totally goofy and ungraceful and no one will be there to judge you or one-up you. Plus, at home you can take pictures and video of yourself dancing and practicing moves, which is both a wonderful learning tool for the moves you're working on and a great confidence booster for the moves you rock at!
I might be a hypocrite by saying that you shouldn't quit pole dance, but Veena has such awesome lessons on here (better than most DVD's you can buy!) that poling at home should only help your confidence and boost your skill. So best of luck and keep on poling! 🙂
