Charley
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I don't think one is necessarily harder than the other but the front hook takes more steps.
Here's some troubleshoooting on this.
Most people tend to keep their inside leg hooked to high – you do not need to hook high up on the pole, just think about draping your knee around the pole rather than "hooking" it.
Lead with your hips and arch your back, many times new students to this move will not lead with the hips which means they kind of end up sitting back into it and looks kind of like a froggy.
The spin you describe where your outside leg wants to meet your inside leg on the pole is called the closed front hook and is a perfectly pretty spin but again you sit back into this more than you do on the front hook. On the front hook your body should be leading the pole, this means your body should be slightly in front of it. Don't start the spin behind the pole start in front of it – you'll be less likely to hook the inside knee to high and you'll also be less likely to sit back into but rather push your hips out. It also helps to tilt your head back once you get the mechanics because tilting your head back will help you think about pushing your hips out and arching your back.
I hope that helps 🙂
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I don't really have a style, but I do try to just let the music take me where it wants to take me so if something calls for a more classical style then I will dance that way, if I am feeling sensual I'll dance that way etc, etc, I like to look at transitions as the meat and potatoes of dancing and the tricks as accents.
As Polergirl said it takes hours of just dancing – not stopping because of anything and really just getting into it.
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Happy Birthday! I hope it'd filled with poles,shots and debauchery!
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@Kobajo – performers insurance isn't something any of us think about when we get there to do the competition and I think this is a learning experience. I am going to look into getting some that's for sure.
@Lulu – I was so stunned she finished, what a pro!!!!!!
I am sure perhaps down the road she might be able to get it covered but you figure it's going to take over a year, she was off of work for 2 months and if she doesn't pay it now the bill just gets bigger with added late fees and charges and continues to hang over head and prevent her from doing other things.
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I just call it a scorpio – it's a hands on variation which is great for doing reverse aysha or pushing out into tg aysha. Sorry I'm not terribly creative, lol!
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Luvlee – you might want to try a titanium first. I've heard mixed reviews, some people like them more others don't. I personally don't like the titanium it's much more slippy for me, so it depends on your chemistry.
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Yes I've heard of it and it does look kind of funky, lol! You could just replace out the A & B poles but the top would be chrome too – if you've got the Xpert or the bottom if you've got the original.
Have you thought about getting a new one and just selling the old one so you don't have a bunch of pole parts laying around?
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Oooh don't use windex. Windex has things in it that makes glass shine which means it makes your pole slippery. I only use alcohol and acetone to clean it.
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I want to learn this too! I'll take any advice!!!!
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Have you given it a good cleaning with acetone? Dawn dish liquid? X-pole suggests you give it a really good cleaning once you put it up because the poles are coated in something after manufacturing. I think it's so they store nicer and don't chip or whatever. You could still be dealing with that.
Climate has a lot to do with it too. If it's dry , much like stainless, you aren't going to stick. If you're dry you can't stick. I use Vaseline Intensive Care lotion on my legs and it works soooo goood!
You also have to get used to poling by yourself, that's got to be a weird feeling after 4 years of only studio poles. Take your time.
Congrats on your new pole!!!!!!!!! It will get good and sticky I promise! 😀
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Hey guys there is a facebook event for this too.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=162904560422152
Thank you Trixie!!!!!
The thing is it sucks so bad to get into a comp, pay out the travel and costume and etc costs associated to only walk our with a $3,000 bill. If we can all just pitch in a little I know it would be a big help to her,
She was so amazing though – she got up and FINISHED the routine. It made me a little teary eyed because I don't think I personally could have at that point. She was offo of work and pole for 2 months – that's a long time.
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YES! Sign me up. Can you do a package deal on 1 on 1's? I think i'd like to do a series rather than just one lesson.
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It depends on HOW you are doing it I think. My Tricks classes are NOT great cardio classes – we spend a lot of time refining technique and learning in a step by step progression which means there is a lot of down time especially for more advanced students. While we do everything we can to stay warm and limber the fact is there is stopping and starting, watching and learning then trying and the cycle continues.
We have a PoleFIT class that is intense cardio and strength training all at the same time and that is an excellent workout. It contains very few spins most transitions and repetion with a few tricks sprinkled in here and there and this class kicks my butt every time I take it.
Our program is at minimum 2 classes/week, We suggest taking a tricks specific class to learn the correct form and technique and an additional cardio pole class (45mins) in which the aim is continued movement and flow for 45 mins straight whether it's a more fitness style or sexy style dancing.
Pole can be the best of both worlds in a single workout too as Aviva pointed out but you do have to be able to set aside a big block of time – which isn't too much an issue for most of us. But if you can't I suggest creating a regiment that allows you both days to get cardio in, like maybe the day after a Tricks intensive workout/practice then focus on just movement and light stretches.
I'm a firm believer you can pole everday if you do it right. Make sure you are giving your body a rest period in that rest period work on floor work and transitions only and leave heavy lifting, spins and tricks for just a couple of days a week. I honestly feel much better on a sore day if I do a little cardio pole and some very light stretching. It's also important to not overdo it each day too. Don't over do tricks practices.
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I teach both mount and dismount together. I have to preface this with I haven't been teaching shouldermounts for very long at all.
We do a series of qualifiers/conditioners before anyone even sees a shouldermount/dismount.
If you don't have someone with you I suggest working on sm FIRST because the dismount is a little harder in the sense that you have to keep your shoulder in the same spot on the pole and bring your lower body down to meet it – typically students I have worked with seems to slide their shoulder down as they bring their legs down making the move near impossible.
I think it's always best to know the beginning and ending positions first then work on the technique later. I'd suggest working on this from the floor, I very literally mean the floor and begin getting a working understanding of how your legs need to grab the pole and pull your body up on to it and lock in crucifix position. Once you understand the end goal of the mount I suggest to work from either a sitting or squatting position. Even though you are working this close to the floor I highly suggest the use of the mats on this one – it's easy to tip back or lose grip and you don't want to smack the back of your head.
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That would be awesome glitter!!!!!
I just bought my first set and I wore them to a Christmas party and my bf LOVED them. He thought they were soooo sexy so I need to get good with these things. They were a little over the top but I don't care – I could fakies all day! It's just one more thing to add to the list of my false advertising https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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Dumb question but does anyone know how many reps you are supposed to do of each exercise? It says sets of 3 – but how many reps?
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I tend to like a little of everything and have no real consistency in my likes. I like different dancers for different reasons. I personally don't really have much of a style myself but I hope to incorporate things I like from all genre's of pole into my bag of tricks.
I really think it's important that we continue to support and love one another. There will always be the Joe Shcmoe's who don't get it but amongst ourselves we need to uplift one another and respect each other. We don't even have to personally like every pole dancer we meet but we as a community should uphold certain values and respecting one another should be at the top of that list.
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To me, it's not just about sexy dancers getting picked on but any dancer getting picked on. We are still a very small community and without each other we have very few people to defend us, hear us, understand us or support us. No pole dancer should be picking apart or saying hurtful things to or about another pole dancer.
It's okay to NOT like everyone's style. Not every pole dancer is going to appeal to everyone we all like different things but to ridicule anyone is just so wrong.
As Empy would say Empowerment isn't just for paying customers.
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Thank you so much Veena and Webmaster for all of your hard work on this amazing new site!!!! I love it!
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It will be 4 years for me in a week and a half – I have NO dance or gymnastics or fitness background at all.
Honestly – for the first couple years of pole dancing I had to wipe the pole between every move. I struggled with everything including just basic movement. I was so hung up on tricks and my tricks didn’t even look nice. I am so embarrassed to say I was using the soles of my feet to climb for like the first entire year because no one told me not to. None of the things I did had good form at all. It wasn’t until I started teaching that I began to improve on the basic things.
I’d rather watch a really pretty dance full or transitions and floor work than a tricked out video where the tricks aren’t fully performed, half done or struggled through. The polished basics are so beautiful.
About 2 years ago I decided to start investing in some grips and anitperspirants and I am so glad I did. Having products readily available that help me with my crazy sweating helped me pole longer, perfect harder tricks and build up the stamina to get through a song.
Everyone progresses at their own rate.
Spilt Sugar is a student turned instructor at the studio I work at and she has been training atleast weekly since April and her progress amazes me and how quickly she gets things – I NEVER learned that fast but as she says – she’s also an aerialist (and a really good one I might add) but I can remember the first time I poled with her at a jam and she couldn’t do spins unless the pole was on spin mode and NOW she is teaching spins on static. We are both still crazy pole wipers too https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif
I will also note that in classes where more advanced work is taught – it takes students WEEKS to get things and every body loves and struggles with different things. There is truly no comparison between dancers.
I wouldn’t worry about how many things you can or can’t do because that will cause creative block. The best thing is to keep a journal list things you’d like to learn and ofcourse always be polishing what you do have. Try to vary your practices – one day might be a conditioning day where you are working on new stuff, take a day off and when you get back to the pole just jam up music and dance and enjoy. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
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I remember when Empy was the only American pole dancer I had ever heard of!
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https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif YAY! That’s a great deal!
Having taken this program – you get A LOT for your money and even more so with this deal. The manuals are easy to read and clear and concise. There isn’t anything that could be added. I got so much out of this program from moves to admin stuff I hadn’t thought of to ways to word and describe things. The intermediate program also covers how to safely spot someone – by safe I mean instructor safety – how do you protect YOUR body as well as your students. I learned a lot on how to care for myself, give verbal ques and how to speak in manners in which I’m heard but not screaming over loud music. This program really helped me clean up and polish my teaching.
Not to mention this has the business end covered too which has been invaluable.
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I’m so so sorry! I’ve been there before too. Just keep your head up. Your product speaks for itself.
thanks Charley. you are absolutely right… i’ll just never get why some people do the stuff they do ! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif
Because it takes less time to write negative things about others than it does to write a good program. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif
I love Empy’s pole dancer ethics because it’s true. We don’t all have to like each other and competition is a fact of business and life but we can always make sure that we are putting a positive image out there and keep our noses in our studios. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
I am hoping in the New Year we will all resolve to make the pole community great and do great things TOGETHER https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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Sadly not all PS poles are created equally. I bought 4 of the old ones a few years ago and there was a distinct difference between poles, there was one in particular that was just ALWAYS slippery no matter what we did.
PS has quality control issues from one pole to another. My SSA is a POS. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif
I hate to say anything negative but this company has gotten on my last nerve. Too bad X-pole doesn’t make a ss pole.
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I’ll second Empy on Don’t get into pole thinking about the $$$ because there isn’t much in it.
There is way more money in parties than regular classes.
