Charley
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I think 50mm's are being phased out. I can't see 40's or 38's becoming a standard. Midwest Pole Dancing & North American Championships use 45's. I believe USPDF uses 45's too. Moses Carrol comps use 50's and so does Allison Sipes Florida Pole Dance Championships.
Comps will tell you what size, in the first Midwest comp they had a 50 and a 45. I think the industry standard will probably be the 45.
I think it's a good idea to get a 45 if you can. I have both sizes and if I were competing on 50's I have it. Also – after spending THAT long on a 50 – you never really lose your ability to perform on a 50. I was on 50's for around 4 years and although I have my 45 up – when I am someplace with just 50's after a few minutes it feels the same again.
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Haha poledancerromance! True Dat!
It looks like you could get into it from upright splits on the pole or perhaps a layback???
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Oh and in regards to pole size – I have not tried this on a 50 but on my 40 the other night I held it an epically long time *for me* lol!
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I also used Marion's tutorial and got it with the help of my friend Agent Kat – straight away. You don't need that much back flexbility – to me, it feels more like you get that hip in position on your shelf and let your body go UPwards and sideways. My issues with it were because I was not turning my lower back into the pole and was still too inverted.
I am still hit or miss with it if I don't have a mirror or Agent Kat watching me but overall it's gotten much easier if I think about turning my torso out and feeling the pole in my lower back.
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Oh WOW!!!!! Okay so ANY tips???????
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I have had a 40mm since March but I haven't had very much time to play on it. Here's my full experiences with it:
I used the 40 (part time) to train my static portion of my midwest routine and part of me in the end got a little scared that somethings were too easy but in the end because I have a 45 at home and spent most times working on the 45 – I was fine.
If I were competing I wouldn't want the 40 to be my only pole unless I was going to compete on the 40.
Last night I was in such a good spot emotionally and finally just played around with it. Spins are glorious on this thing – they take flight, you can really swing our and get LOTS of rotation and combinations are seemingly effortless. Anything requiring a good hand grip is much easier – I won't say super easy because try as I might I did fail all of my aerial tg lift attempts but the security of being able to wrap my hands around the pole made me feel much safer. I was able to do a single handed iguana mount/handstand up to the pole – this is something I could never do on the 45 because I was insecure with my grip. Once I got it on the 40 I moved to the 45 and was able to replicate the move.
I sweat LESS. Those who know me know I am sweatier than your average person, The added security of knowing that I had a firm grip around the pole seemed to quell a lot of fears in advanced and extreme moves which led to far less sweating! While I still needed to apply tite grip I found I wasn't using as much of it – which makes practice much easier.
Knee holds are a bit more painful and troublesome to get into however once in them I feel much more secure and can do more combinations – particularly combinations where I cam changing body direction.
Laybacks are tough – I am not going to lie about that however once I felt how hard I needed to squeeze I prefer them on the 40 over the 45. I was able to hold an epically long Janeiro because on a smaller pole I was able to create a more stable and what felt like a larger shelf.
Handsprings, ayshas and other repel moves- easy peasy!
All in all I really love this pole. If you are planning on competing or performing it shouldn't be your only pole because 45 adn 50 is still the standard. If you can have an extra pole for cross training I highly recommend this one!
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I think chrome might do the same then. I can definitely get on better with it but stainless seems to be the on material that I can stick to and my hands don't get icky.
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For what this is worth, I have both the chrome and the titanium x-poles – both 45mm and have danced on brass poles. I think the TG is an amazing pole. I found it very similar to brass in all the good ways and none of the bad ways. Certain types of brass make my hands sweat more, infact a friend of mine who has very dry hands found her hands also started becoming an issue on brass because of sweat.
I am a chrome or stainless girl/ through and through but the TG X-Pert is a great pole and a little cheaper. I do recommend those who like brass to try the tg. I think the major difference between brass and tg is that tg does take a wee bit longer to warm up but it's sooo grippy and nice.
X-pole tech, are there any announcements about the X-Pert SS? Have there been changes in the polishing on that one too? I love SS and would love to get one 🙂
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Chem that pic looks like a single handed bow and arrow. You get into these from layback right?
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Is there a name for this? It's super pretty!
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Thank you Keex! I wish they could have announced her. I heard she took some chances and was really amazing. I hope to see videos soon.
Congrats to all the ladies!!!!!!!!
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When you say torque – do you mean as in spinning to fast and breaking pole? That kind of thing? I'm very interested in getting this but I want to make sure it would work. The routine is gorgeous, btw! Is it possible to use this with X-poles that are not anchored? Perhaps if you were not using spin mode?
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Leesi – it is usable/safe with a stage pole???? It look slike it just clamps onto the pole so I would assume the pole would have to be perm mounted or somehow free standing?
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Irmingard – I think I feel like at this point in time if a studio is going to offer kids classes then they need to take stock of their public image, does that make sense. Like if you offer kids classes don't post the fun slutty dancing on your main page – maybe move it to an adult section of the website. This coming from someone who LOVES heels and tiny booty shorts!
My fear is that the image of stripping combined with kids will just make US look worse than perhaps we already do to some, I fear it makes us look stupid, I fear that it makes us look like we don;t have any taste.
It's a business at the end of the day so business owners need to tread carefully into this. It's not just about money, it's about perception too. We need to create a "family fitness" environment before they even walk in the door.
For me, personally, I can't see ever wanting to teach kids, I'd rather focus on women and help them with their journey of self discovery – but that's just me.
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If we are going to bring children into mainstream studios then I think it's important to rebrand it.
Rebranding means removing heels and bikini's from websites and creating a yoga type image for the place of business, it means not having hot pink walls and animal prints, it means taking down sexy silhouttes, removing sky high platform shoes, it means putting forth a fitness image, no sexy videos, lingerie links or slutty outfits.
It's not about what WE think it's about the perceptions other have.
I am cool with kids pole dancing, infact my friend let her niece try on my "bond girl" heels as the girls call them and they fit her – she's only ten. The girls had a blast playing dress up and dancing around the pole – but how does that look? To us – hilarious and fun, to others who don't understand? Like we are sexualizing little girls.
So, kids and pole dancing – go for it, but lets retune it a little so we're not calling it pole dancing and so that it's "family" acceptable to majority of the population.