Charley
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I think 50mm's are being phased out. I can't see 40's or 38's becoming a standard. Midwest Pole Dancing & North American Championships use 45's. I believe USPDF uses 45's too. Moses Carrol comps use 50's and so does Allison Sipes Florida Pole Dance Championships.
Comps will tell you what size, in the first Midwest comp they had a 50 and a 45. I think the industry standard will probably be the 45.
I think it's a good idea to get a 45 if you can. I have both sizes and if I were competing on 50's I have it. Also – after spending THAT long on a 50 – you never really lose your ability to perform on a 50. I was on 50's for around 4 years and although I have my 45 up – when I am someplace with just 50's after a few minutes it feels the same again.
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Haha poledancerromance! True Dat!
It looks like you could get into it from upright splits on the pole or perhaps a layback???
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Oh and in regards to pole size – I have not tried this on a 50 but on my 40 the other night I held it an epically long time *for me* lol!
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I also used Marion's tutorial and got it with the help of my friend Agent Kat – straight away. You don't need that much back flexbility – to me, it feels more like you get that hip in position on your shelf and let your body go UPwards and sideways. My issues with it were because I was not turning my lower back into the pole and was still too inverted.
I am still hit or miss with it if I don't have a mirror or Agent Kat watching me but overall it's gotten much easier if I think about turning my torso out and feeling the pole in my lower back.
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Oh WOW!!!!! Okay so ANY tips???????
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I have had a 40mm since March but I haven't had very much time to play on it. Here's my full experiences with it:
I used the 40 (part time) to train my static portion of my midwest routine and part of me in the end got a little scared that somethings were too easy but in the end because I have a 45 at home and spent most times working on the 45 – I was fine.
If I were competing I wouldn't want the 40 to be my only pole unless I was going to compete on the 40.
Last night I was in such a good spot emotionally and finally just played around with it. Spins are glorious on this thing – they take flight, you can really swing our and get LOTS of rotation and combinations are seemingly effortless. Anything requiring a good hand grip is much easier – I won't say super easy because try as I might I did fail all of my aerial tg lift attempts but the security of being able to wrap my hands around the pole made me feel much safer. I was able to do a single handed iguana mount/handstand up to the pole – this is something I could never do on the 45 because I was insecure with my grip. Once I got it on the 40 I moved to the 45 and was able to replicate the move.
I sweat LESS. Those who know me know I am sweatier than your average person, The added security of knowing that I had a firm grip around the pole seemed to quell a lot of fears in advanced and extreme moves which led to far less sweating! While I still needed to apply tite grip I found I wasn't using as much of it – which makes practice much easier.
Knee holds are a bit more painful and troublesome to get into however once in them I feel much more secure and can do more combinations – particularly combinations where I cam changing body direction.
Laybacks are tough – I am not going to lie about that however once I felt how hard I needed to squeeze I prefer them on the 40 over the 45. I was able to hold an epically long Janeiro because on a smaller pole I was able to create a more stable and what felt like a larger shelf.
Handsprings, ayshas and other repel moves- easy peasy!
All in all I really love this pole. If you are planning on competing or performing it shouldn't be your only pole because 45 adn 50 is still the standard. If you can have an extra pole for cross training I highly recommend this one!
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I think chrome might do the same then. I can definitely get on better with it but stainless seems to be the on material that I can stick to and my hands don't get icky.
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For what this is worth, I have both the chrome and the titanium x-poles – both 45mm and have danced on brass poles. I think the TG is an amazing pole. I found it very similar to brass in all the good ways and none of the bad ways. Certain types of brass make my hands sweat more, infact a friend of mine who has very dry hands found her hands also started becoming an issue on brass because of sweat.
I am a chrome or stainless girl/ through and through but the TG X-Pert is a great pole and a little cheaper. I do recommend those who like brass to try the tg. I think the major difference between brass and tg is that tg does take a wee bit longer to warm up but it's sooo grippy and nice.
X-pole tech, are there any announcements about the X-Pert SS? Have there been changes in the polishing on that one too? I love SS and would love to get one 🙂
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Chem that pic looks like a single handed bow and arrow. You get into these from layback right?
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Is there a name for this? It's super pretty!
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Thank you Keex! I wish they could have announced her. I heard she took some chances and was really amazing. I hope to see videos soon.
Congrats to all the ladies!!!!!!!!
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When you say torque – do you mean as in spinning to fast and breaking pole? That kind of thing? I'm very interested in getting this but I want to make sure it would work. The routine is gorgeous, btw! Is it possible to use this with X-poles that are not anchored? Perhaps if you were not using spin mode?
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Leesi – it is usable/safe with a stage pole???? It look slike it just clamps onto the pole so I would assume the pole would have to be perm mounted or somehow free standing?
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Irmingard – I think I feel like at this point in time if a studio is going to offer kids classes then they need to take stock of their public image, does that make sense. Like if you offer kids classes don't post the fun slutty dancing on your main page – maybe move it to an adult section of the website. This coming from someone who LOVES heels and tiny booty shorts!
My fear is that the image of stripping combined with kids will just make US look worse than perhaps we already do to some, I fear it makes us look stupid, I fear that it makes us look like we don;t have any taste.
It's a business at the end of the day so business owners need to tread carefully into this. It's not just about money, it's about perception too. We need to create a "family fitness" environment before they even walk in the door.
For me, personally, I can't see ever wanting to teach kids, I'd rather focus on women and help them with their journey of self discovery – but that's just me.
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If we are going to bring children into mainstream studios then I think it's important to rebrand it.
Rebranding means removing heels and bikini's from websites and creating a yoga type image for the place of business, it means not having hot pink walls and animal prints, it means taking down sexy silhouttes, removing sky high platform shoes, it means putting forth a fitness image, no sexy videos, lingerie links or slutty outfits.
It's not about what WE think it's about the perceptions other have.
I am cool with kids pole dancing, infact my friend let her niece try on my "bond girl" heels as the girls call them and they fit her – she's only ten. The girls had a blast playing dress up and dancing around the pole – but how does that look? To us – hilarious and fun, to others who don't understand? Like we are sexualizing little girls.
So, kids and pole dancing – go for it, but lets retune it a little so we're not calling it pole dancing and so that it's "family" acceptable to majority of the population.
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I sometimes think that my idea of sensual is a little weird but here are some songs that speak to me.
Studying Stones – Ani DeFranco
Lies – The Black Keys
These Days – The Black Keys
Lady – Joss Stone
Gravity – John Mayer
Syrup & Honey – Duffy
F* You – Damien Rice
Let It Be Me – Ray Lamontagne
Crazy (Gnarles Barkley Cover) – Ray Lamontagne
Purple Rain – Etta James
Love Don't Live Here Anymore – Madonna
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MissyMia – The Midwest Pole Dance Competition and Pacific Pole Championships already have a Masters for over 40. 🙂 It's happening and it's splendid!
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Lyme, see if you can get the 1 piece 40 PS so you don't have to deal with the larger adjuster rod cover – my friend has a removeable 50 and I swear that cover at the bottom is like 3 inches around and it's so hard to grip because it's plastic and huge.
PS stainless is really good – I like it. I have tried the LM stainless and I do ok with it but I think PS corners the market on SS. I have not tried the X-pole SS but have heard it's slippy, same with their brass. Do they not have a TG option for the 40?
I love my chrome 40 for what it's worth.
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@dancing in the gray – my girlfriend was the same way – a lot of her issues with inverting came from fear. She worked really hard to get it and the trainer has helped her build up strength for sure.
Don't look at it as weight to lose, just look at goals – like "I want to feel strong in my invert." Make goals that have nothing to do with weight – that's just a number – make pole goals 🙂 Trust me, I was using the gym with non pole goals and it wasn't fun, when I thought and focused on pole goals – I was super excited!!!!!
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Just added everyone!!!!
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Here's me
http://www.facebook.com/charleypole
I have *fan* page but it's only for public updates so if you wanna *like me* lol!
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I wouldn't spend $200/ week on a personal trainer but I would do is look into cross training at a gym. Do you have a Planet Fitness neariby? I go to PF and they have a 30 minute course set up and you basically use the machines for a minute and then do a min of cardio. They have a PT on staff that will go over how to use the equipment, how much to do, how much weight, etc.
I second classes too – are there any bootcamps nearby?
I never liked the thought of having to cross train for pole but during my practice for midwest I was pretty artist blocked and just couldn't focus so I took to the gym and found that I LOVED it! I'd get on the treadmill listen to music and dream of pole dancing. I got really excited when I saw my body changing and getting stronger and more flexible. Everyday I went to the gym I felt like I had done something good for myself.
My friend has been doing time with a PT because she travels a lot and can't always pole and she's kept all of her tricks. So cross training has it's place and it did make her pole work better – she was able to go longer and with the added strength she was more confident in doing things.
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I've always been smaller too and found that moves like the gemini pull my tunny in an unflattering manner. You can wear monokini's and such that will minimize the look of stretching skin but sometimes there is nothing you can do about it.
Here's the goodnews – we all do pole and we all suffer with it 🙂 You're not alone!
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I believe one of the reasons it will not be legalized is because there is no way to test for it if someone is driving. No one should be driving under the influence of any kind of drug including pot, alcohol, perscription drugs, etc. So until they can test for it they probably won't legalize it.
The best solution is decriminalizing it which would be mean it would be a misdemeanor and not a felony – though I don't think a doobie is a felony any more – and pocession would not end with jail time but fines.
In our current conservative world – I can't see pot being sold in stores although it should be and regulated like alcohol. There are too many people there are too many that would fuss over this – we as a country aren't ready for it.
I concur – far too many people in the system over pot – sad!
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I am 100% pro MEDICINAL marijuana. I think that there are ways to use it properly. My biggest example would be pain in cancer patients – I would rather see natural pain relievers used as opposed to chemicals that have far worse side effects on the body.
I am against recreational use of marijuana and am totally against what happens here in Michigan – where you basically say "I have pain" and you get a perscription for pot! I think with proper legislation and medical diagnosis it can be helpful.
To add, personally – my experiences with pot haven't been fun, I just go to sleep so it's easy for me to say no to it. I've done it a handful of times and it knocks me out, which isn't much fun. I suppose if i needed to sleep I'd try it but i'm a good sleeper on my own, lol – don't need help. Bring on the wine!
