Aviva
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Phoenix, no doubt on that. For one thing for 5 years I only did spins in one direction, using my left shoulder mostly. And also I because I had been doing the spin for so long before I started teaching I was doing it without the awareness of proper form as I didn’t associate what I was doing at the club with fitness until I walked into Xpose for the first time.
Thanks for your responses, much appreciated.
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Oooo subscribed, can’t wait!
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So IDK how to make the picture appear in here but it’s at the top of the board right now and also on my page. I drew a picture of what I believe to be the points of contact and so shows why the diameter is not as big a factor as people may think. I want people that don’t have access to a smaller diameter pole to take heart b/c you don’t have to have less than a 50 to get it. No I don’t think I could do it on a pole fatter than a 50 🙂
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I learned it for the 1st on a 50. I promise you the diameter size does not matter. It’s because of the points of contact. The phone won’t let me see who but someone said you have to make sure the pole is up around your neck with top leg hooked & you’re taking the weight on your hands for a second that is true. Biggest mistake I’ve seen people make trying to get into it is not having the pole near the neck at the critical time. While diameter of the pole may not make a difference, height will. Ideally you need at least 9 ft to really be able to get it b/c if you start too low on the pole gravity is pulling you down and you rum out of room before you hook the bottom foot the foot hits the ground.
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They’ll sell you a shorter B pole. I have almost 9ft ceilings so I had to get a shorter pole. I can’t remember how much it was but I have both B poles so now I can have the full height outside and still set it up inside 🙂
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Yeah I’m interested to see what people think about that performance.
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Love Prince grip!
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No idea, but that is pretty cool.
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God Bless you people. I was poling today very sad and depressed w/ almost no inspiration and tried bird of paradise. And now there is this for next pole session which I’ll probably be all sad and depressed for as well LOL! But! even through that you all provide the inspiration to work through it anyway! Thanks.
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Corby, basically you are conditioning from the neck down and at the same time shampooing the roots, rinse all that out and then condition? Sounds worth trying, thanks. I do not wash my hair everyday actually twice a week if that but I was putting it up every single day.
Thanks again.
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Thanks for your responses 🙂 I think I may have put too much tension on my hair b/c of the clip and holding it all up. The entire underside of my hair including my temples is shorter than the bulk from the crown down and back. I’ve had issues whit the back underhair before but never the sides/temples, when I saw how short they were then I became alarmed.
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Okay I’ll try to answer what I think was specifically addressed to me….and might have to respond to some stuff that wasn’t….
To Runemist34 –Yes they do place a lot of emphasis on sexy. They teach sexy in their floor chair classes and all pole classes. The studio holds the competition between it’s students and between the three remaining studios. They have prelim rounds where each studio holds their comp to see who will go to the big show where all three studios compete. I am pretty sure (though it has been two years since I’ve worked for them) that you with your burlesque experience would also be barred from the competition.
To answer the question of how to handle the stuck earring both my friend and I said the same thing. We would have– upon finally getting unstuck and the shirt off– sat up on the pole (it was in layback) twirled the shirt around and flung it against the wall (not into the audience b/c she didn’t want to lose that particular shirt) flung the hands in the air given the crowd the WTF??? Flung the hair…gotten the response….We were all there with her in the same agony waiting for her to get the damn shirt off, at that point the only way to save it would to be to totally acknowledge that it happened let the crowd know exactly how you felt about hence the twirl and fling of the shirt. It would have allowed the crowd to cheer the comeback and kept her in the game. But as a regular women we’ve all heard “the show must go on” so that is what she did, she went on with the show rather than making a show of the mishap which would have been way more entertaining.
I agree with Oopsey Daisy 100% and believe that competition brings out the worst in people. It’s not about how hard everyone trained to win but about what they did (or didn’t do) when they got on that stage.
As for the gratitude one of their studios in particular has had many workshops with the famous pole competitors many of whom are strippers or former strippers and that wasn’t even brought up when booking said artist. It’s not about discrimination it’s about these are the rules of this competition if you don’t like them don’t participate in said comp. I’ve known strippers who did the comp. anyway and lied by omission. Not my business and I’m not ratting them out that’s between them and them.
Again, it’s anyone’s prerogative whether to give their money to whom but calling something discrimination when it’s not doesn’t do anything positive for you or the sport. And really, if they were so discriminatory and against strippers they wouldn’t hire them as instructors or have said world champs for their workshops.
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I have debated with myself on weather I was going to weigh in on this and last time I read it about a week ago I let it go. But I see people talking about it being about discrimination and have to throw my perspective into it.
I am a former stripper who taught pole for five years. The company I taught pole for holds an annual competition for their students for a title and prizes. This has always been billed as an amateur competition and if you get paid to be a stripper you are paid to be an entertainer therefore a professional therefore not eligible for the competition.
I never really cared about it one way or the other because from day one I always spoke of my “night work” experience and because it was also in the employee rules of the company that we are not training people to get into the adult entertainment business. If they want to know about it, fine, feel free to tell them stories about last night at work, but do not encourage regular everyday women to get into “the business”. I never had a problem with that part and always thought that was darned reasonable. I also never felt discriminated against by my employers or the others in the environment. I was very well respected by my peers and students.
The rules are there for a very specific reason and this unfortunate story happened to my friend and illustrates EXACTLY why it is in place. This competition is not a POLE competition per se, it is an entertainer competition, there is also a floor and chair dance element to the comp that must be included in a routine to qualify. In the competition my friend during a crucial move upside down had her shirt get caught on her earring and struggled for way longer than she should have (upsidedown layback) to get the shirt off. When she finally did she simply finished her routine as best she could. Now, a stripper myself and my other friend who is also a former stripper watching that knew exactly how we would have handled that situation and it was the same answer and was NOT what our friend had done. Why? Because we were strippers and we know how to bring the attitude when shit doesn’t go our way on stage. My friend in the comp, never having been a pro stripper didn’t know what to do. She did what an everyday woman would have done and went on with the show thereby making it totally fair. It is so unfortunate it happened to my friend, she was momentarily devastated. But it does perfectly illustrate why the rule is there. Now I’m not saying that an everyday woman who has never been a stripper couldn’t have come up with and executed the same answer as my former stripper friend and I but I am saying it’s less likely.
It sucks for strippers who want to compete but at this point there are so daggone many comps out there, if you really don’t want to support the studio hey, it’s your money it is YOUR PREROGATIVE https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif but I want you to know it’s not necessarily about discrimination. If you really like your instructor you might just have to pick a girlfriend to root on and find a comp that allows for your experience and style of dance. Or tricks if that’s what you’re into.
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I have 3 diameters, 38, 45, and 50. My hand does not appreciate a cup grip after a while on my 38 where as it never protested on my 50. I have not really done it a whole lot on my 45 so that is the only observation I have made.
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" I'd like to suggest a totally different way of looking at this. Bachelor parties are like going to a communion Mass and drinking wine when you, in fact, abhor drinking and despise alcohol as a vice. In other words, the "Mass" is not a "drinking party" and even though you may have sworn to abjure and abstain from alcohol, drinking the tiny bit of wine ritually defined as the body of Christ is entirely understood as a "rite" and not an actual instance of "drinking."
OK, so when guys get together to humiliate their buddy and act stupid at the strip club, joke around, get a little grind and booby touching, it is, metaphorically speaking, a RITUAL. It's not sex, it's not stimulating, it's not a betrayal. Mostly, for your typical, regular, normal bunch of mature men, it's understood to be mostly bullshit.
I respect your feelings about the sanctity of your marriage, but I think you are overreacting here. Your man loves you. He's going to go to his friend's party; he's going to grin and bear it, smile through his anxiety, then come home with a big sigh of relief. He's going to do these things for the same reason he had to take naked showers in high school, or be the last one picked for soccer, or get punched in the face because he wears glasses–because he is a man and that's what is expected of him. Then he will come home and make love to his beautiful wife.
Give your hubby a $20 for a lap dance, kiss him on the cheek, tell him to have fun–then call your girlfriends up for some wine and scary movies on AMC channel. He will appreciate being released from this guilt and anxiety about his relationship with you. When he gets home, remind him–in that way you know how–exactly WHY he married you and not the girl at the club.
My 2 cents.
Joel Lessing
Forest Park, Illinois
("Poledancefan")"This is directed towards the words I read in this post though they come from you, this is not directed at you personally Joel Lessing (in fact I rather enjoy most of your contributions) but at what you had to say. Shut the fuck up. No I don’t mean it with all that vitriol and what not but that is some bullshit that guys try to sell to women to get away with walking in the shade. As someone who could have written MrsNaughtywed’s post verbatim down to the dual lapdance and funny feelings AND someone who has worked more bachelor parties than anyone here would care to know about and what you said about it not being stimulating and not betrayal is bull. And a little grind and booby touching? How would the reciprocal be received?? Would a man (not necessarily you) be okay with his woman participating in a little dick-y touching and a little clit-y grinding?
For some men, what you say is the truth, for others, not so much. And whether it’s a betrayal or not has more to do with whether the cards are on the table AND the partner is okay with it. I’ve given lapdances/played party games with a husband and wife, they were both cool. Then it was bullshit, then it was fun. But please don’t tell any female that a man with naked women in his face is going to “grin and bear it”. Oh! The suffering!!!! C’mon! what you said to the OP was some run of the mill sell her some shit shut to her up. And why the hell should she hand him and $20 and tell him to get a dance if she’s not comfortable with it? That’s not gonna make her more comfortable. You don’t SHOW respect for her feelings about her marriage by telling her she is overreacting here.
My .02 like I said not personal against you. Truth be told, personal against the fool who tried to sell me that RITUAL, (he used the word tradition, same thing) when he was very much enjoying himself.
Aviva
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Oh, okay the link doesn't work quite right but cut and paste does.
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That's a really cool idea but I can't find it on the page.
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I love my x-stage and since I am just now starting to work mostly on spin mode, I'm okay if it doesn't spin as fast as other poles, it's still faster than my tension mounted poles. I hate that it is so heavy. SO heavy to the point where for me it's not portable. Oh, I could probably lift from the ground into my trunk, but no way am I getting that base down (or back up) 40 steps. I live on the 3 floor and really need something lighter to tote around. I wish r-pole was over here and that they would bring back their hard stage. Oh yeah, and come down a couple hundred on the price. Sigh. That's b/c I haven't tried the platinum stage SSA yet but hope to soon.
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Oh!https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif I thought wicking was happening to the hands not the pole! Glad I asked for clarification.
Eagle, I don't think a matte finish or a brushed finish will help with the slimey feeling but that is only b/c of my own personal experience. In my experience my brass feels the best after it's been very well cleaned, either steam cleaned or brass polished to mirror finish.
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SLIMEY!!! Thank you. I thought I was the only one. I can wash and thoroughly dry my hands and touch a pole and it still feels exactly how Eagle described it, slimey.
But I've never used anything but a smooth surface. Web Master what is wicking?
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I heard Dancing Queen on the radio while driving to work as a dancer for the very first night. I thought, how ironic, because at the time I couldn't even touch my toes with my legs straight.
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I went through and liked all the posts that basically said exactly what I'm about to say. I had my 45mm Xstage lite pole powder coated a beautiful royal blue. I could not be happier with the color. The body grip (unless my skin is so dry it's actually irritated in which case: corn huskers!) is awesome! However, what everyone said about the sweaty hands is true, nothing will grip when your hand is wet with sweat I have three of the four materials. I still must use dryhands for my grip because there is no way in the world I will ever get botulism toxin in my hands (or face for that matter) and wipe the pole down every couple songs/moves whatever it is. It only needs a cloth to clean it, does not take any solution or anything. My brass– sometimes the body grip is great and the hand grip sucks and sometimes it's great hand grip but not great body grip. At least my powder coated is consistant. Oh, and for the most part so is my chrome. I play on that when it's cold, there a prayer of me gripping or when I'm really trying to challenge myself and want to add the no grip element to my practice. Hope that helps. I probably actually no definitely wouldn't have gotten my one and only pole powder coated, this was my 3rd working pole I had done. Hope that input helps as well as all the other good advice on here.
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If you have access to resistance equipment, wide grip pull down, wide grip row. With perfect form. If you do not know what perfect form is ask a trainer, PT or chiropractor your trust, someone who not only knows anatomy and physiology but biomechancis as well. My shoulder bothered me for a year and a half before I started on the Wide Grip pull down and row. Important because as polers we close grip pull our bodies up all the time.
Hope this helps. Oh damn, almost forget the most important thing! *** Listen to your body*** if it hurts, don't do it. So you may need to rest before starting up resistance training. If it's not too far gone (read: about to need surgery) that should help.
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That russian split, flying K, Oona splits..whatever you call it– every time I try it I hurt myself. I might be letting that one go.
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How far away from Tampa are you?
