Opinions on Rihanna's Pour it up (Explicit) video

 
PoleRules
Hello Everyone,

Just was wondering about people's views on Rihanna's new Pout it Up (Explicit) music video.  In the background it shows various, talented pole dancers doing their hard moves, alongside Rihanna's sexpot, sleazy, stripclub dancing.  Does anyone know who those dancers are?  Seems to me that this one video is going to undo alot that pole dancing has been trying to do these last years, and that is to change people's perception of the sport.

I don't know about anyone else, but I feel that the video just drags pole dancing's reputation through the mud

Anyone else care to share their view points on the subject?
Oct 4, 2013 from Ontario, Canada
DestinyCorinne Previous Paid Member
I think it does contribute to everyone thinking that every pole dancer is a stripper, which doesn't really matter anyway, because the people who think that way will continue to think that way until they open up to the idea of pole as being more than just night life, and clubbing. A lot of people are limited on the subject, and that's the first thing the mind goes to when you mention anything to do with pole. The people who are open minded about it will understand that stripping is one type of pole, there isn't anything wrong with it at all, and I think it embraces the sexier side of pole, and it is just as empowering as long as you keep it classy ! What I love is that you can take pole, and make it as fitnessey or as sexy as you want.

It would be helpful if everyone asked, "Well, what kind of pole dancing are you interested in?" But it seems that most people aren't aware that it can be done for fitness, competitions, etc. So if you were to make them aware that while strip clubs do exist for those who are into the sexier side of pole, there are many others that do it just for fitness in studios, and even some that go all out and participate in worldwide competitions, ever aspect of pole really takes a lot of hard work, dedication, and strength, even flexibility... It'll widen their understanding of the subject, rather than denying the sexier side of pole, and only focusing on pole as a sport. 

I think that's the direction the pole community should aim for, rather than denying a big part of what pole is about ! (: But that's just my opinion,
Oct 4, 2013 from New Orleans, Louisiana, United States
Veena
Hmmm, I don't think it's undoing anything.......

I think many "stripclub" moves have their own difficulty level to them so downplaying those isn't really cool or accepting either. It's not easy to shake your booty!! LOL People have been aware of pole's in strip clubs for a looooong time and I don't think they've suddenly forgotten about those clubs because we have turned the use for a pole into other expressions, as well. So, when a dancer uses a pole in what some might perceive as sexual it doesn't "undo" anything. The strip club was there before and I bet it will still be there in the future.

I didn't start poling, teaching or even this website to "change" the publics opinion on what pole dancing is. I enjoy all styles of pole dance and there is room for all styles. I pole because I LOVE it. 

I personally was not impress with the video, it was a little predicable and a honestly kinda boring. The pole dancers did a nice job though! I would love to see more acceptance of ALL styles in the pole world. 

For everyone else here's the video [www.youtube.com]

 
Oct 4, 2013 from Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
Veena
I will add, and I have lived in several different states, when I tell people what I do they tend to say "oh, I've heard that's a great workout"..... 
Oct 4, 2013 from Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
IrishOrla Paid Member
People who don't pole or are on the outside of our hobby will never understand. In my opinion they will just never get it. No matter what videos are out there putting us down or on the other hand explaining why we do it to benefit our bodys and for muscle growth. People are always going to believe what they want to believe no matter what, for example my best friend. I asked her to start poling with me when I first started an her reaction was "no way! It's really slutty is it not?" , now she sees me on my pole and says it looks amazing but she still wouldn't do it because of the stigma. Each to their own.
Rhianna is a money making icon. And that's it. Nothing more or less. She's doing what she does best to keep the $$$$ rolling in. In all honesty I was a bit annoyed watching it, but at the same time I doubt she done it to put all us serious polers down.

She's making money how she knows best. Exploitation. She wasn't thinking of our poling community while she was at it.
Oct 4, 2013 from Co.Down Ireland, Ireland
IrishOrla Paid Member
I just watched the full video there, and seriously I thinks it's rubbish like all her music and videos. Not because of the pole or anything, just in general I hate all modern day "singers" because they are only singers for either of two reasons-1: they get naked to get the ratings or -2: they can't sing and every note is computerised. That Is all :)
Oct 4, 2013 from Co.Down Ireland, Ireland
Kira aka Raven Kai
It just comes across a little desperate most likely because of the fact she needs to remind the general public she's still around - you've got miley stealing all her attention and also britney's made another comeback song - so she's got to make her next video 'memorable' for good or bad. Honestly, were people expecting most the video being 'artistic' pole dance like her doing an amazing janeiro into a rainbow marchenko? the song's about strip clubs.... It doesn't make me feel much to be honest, it's just funny seeing all the pole sport advocates going into a proper rage about it ;)
Oct 4, 2013 from Up North, England, United Kingdom
IrishOrla Paid Member
Lol raven you are spot on. My thoughts too. She wasn't thinking of all us die hard pole fanatics when she was making the vid. She wanted the wow factor. She wanted viewers to remember her. So yeah you could say she done it well ;) lol

Pity about all the polers who are now going to hunt her down with pitch forks and burn her on the stake. Lol. Getting carried away haha.
Oct 4, 2013 from Co.Down Ireland, Ireland
chemgoddess1 Paid Member
Have any of you watched the making of this video? They name all of the dancers and make up people and pretty much every person who was involved.
Personally I do not see what the big deal is about the video. There were 2 things that stuck out.....one, I WANT that rhinestone bra in the worst way and 2 , in the making of video one of the girls drops down into splits in the water and booty bounced (I don't think it is in the final video). Oh, forgot, I was kinda impressed with Rhianna's booty pop at the end.
Oct 4, 2013 from Raleigh-ish, NC, United States
Kira aka Raven Kai
Oh yeah nothing against any of the performers I loved Nicole's audition tape esp the ceiling sit and that drop, she's got a fierce attitude! And I wish I had a butt like moneii haha I just think there was a lot of expectation on this for some reason?
Oct 4, 2013 from Up North, England, United Kingdom
Veena
I think I saw that drop split into booty n water. Also love that bra Chem! I hate to admit it but I like Brittany's new video.
Oct 4, 2013 from Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
Ninja Sarah
I got one word for that video...TRASHY! I'm sorry but that is all I could think of during the entire video, and yes, I DID watch the entire video. How could you not? It's like a train wreck; you want to look away but afraid that if you do you'll end up missing something essential.

Hey, seriously, I'm not a hater. In fact I'm usually the first girl to stand up for all our young pop singers out there taking chances, making risky videos, putting themselves out there a little more than others, and whatnot. But, honestly, I think Rihanna's gone a little too far with this one. As a whole actually, she just seems to keep getting skankier and skankier every day in everything she does.

Take her recent holiday/vacation/whatever trip she recently took out of country with a bunch of her "friends". She rode along with a giant festival parade, in the middle of the city, in front of hundreds of people, wearing nothing but a huge sparkly headdress, pore excuse for a bra, and matching g-string panties with high heals. She was 3 sheets to the wind almost the entire time running around humping anything that moved.

I mean, I get that she's young and carefree, rich and famous, and that it's her life and she can live it how she wants, but for god sakes, have some freaking dignity once in a while while. It's just starting to get a little ridiculous, her balls-to-the-wall behavior all over national television in magazines, it's just pathetic.
Oct 4, 2013 from Overland, Missouri, United States
chemgoddess1 Paid Member
So my question is why we even discussing something that really has no effect on our personal lives? I mean really, I could care less what any celebrity does or says. It has no effect on my life or the way I live it. I am only responsible for myself. I think a lot of people would be happier in life if they stopped being so concerned about the actions of others.
Oct 4, 2013 from Raleigh-ish, NC, United States
kmccool Paid Member
I watched the video and although I personally didn't like the song or the video, I don't think it will do much "damage" as other videos that show case pole dancers in the same kind of light would. My Darkest Days "Porn Star Dancing" and Enrique Iglesias "Dirty Dancer" are a couple examples I know of that don't make me think any less of the dance. Those who don't know what pole dancing is really all about, they wouldn't see the power behind the holds or the flexibility in the dances as we see them. We shouldn't let their ignorance slow us down one bit. The culture of pole is growing beautifully strong on it's own without having to defend it self against pop culture icons and their displays.
Oct 4, 2013
Jag5303 Previous Paid Member
I'm jealous they can mix pole and water!?LOL I keep trying to talk my husband into mounting a pole on our boat.
Oct 4, 2013 from Texas, United States
PoleRules
Thanks everyone for expressing your opinions. I was just curious about the different view points out there.
Oct 4, 2013 from Ontario, Canada
Lilyxxx
I know one of the pole dancers' names is Candace Cane, I believe she's a KOD dancer, and her pole work is AMAZING! I was only disappointed in the video because I expected to see her making a better appearance doing some of her cooler tricks. She's on instagram: sweetmscandace and she has some pole clips up.

 

As far as the stripping thing goes.... Would there be pole dancing without the strippers? Showing strippers pole dancing in a pop music video doesn't "undo" anything about non-stripper pole dancing: strippers were there first. I wonder how THEY feel about a bunch of people jacking their art and then griping about the "stigmas" and oh Rihanna wasn't thinking about the "pole community" when she made that video. Of course she wasn't. The song is about strippers. What do good strippers do? Shake their ass and dance on a pole. Be grateful to the strippers and stop the whining. xo
Oct 4, 2013
Runemist34 Paid Member
I'm really enjoying this topic :) You guys have some really good arguments and some very interesting points to make.

Mine may not be so insightful, but... watching that video, I actually had a hard time watching or finding the pole dancers, let alone figuring out what the heck they were doing! Some really awesome, advanced moves that are basically lost in the visual effects and the focus on Rhianna herself. I also found myself totally confused... why would she have fingernails on the outsides of her gloves? What the heck kind of top is that to wear, especially with those awful cut-off jean shorts? Why does she have a giant throne in a big, watery room? Why is that sort of booty popping considered "sexy"? It just looks violent! If I was a guy, I would fear for my manhood, thinking a girl would do that.

Soo... yeah, I honestly don't think that our "reputation" will be tarnished by this one. I agree with Lilyxxx! Where would pole dancing be without strippers? They invented it! That's like saying "Do you think Burlesque does bad things to the strippers reputation?" Burlesque created strippers, who then got on a pole and made pole dance, and now we're doing it! And we love it! Thanks, strippers! You're awesome!

That's... basically how I see that, lol
Oct 4, 2013 from Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada
Cherished Paid Member
For myself I'm a Rihanna fan and I love Nicole Williams of Allure Pole dance (whose in the vid) 

I don't think it sets back pole dancing. In the song she's singing about strip clubs which she regularly visits them on her down time. I think the video did suit the context of the song since it's supposed to represent stripping/strippers/clubs and not pole fitness.

Also on Rihanna's channel they did take the time to put up Nicole William's audition clips

[www.youtube.com] which is now over 1 million views and exposes a wide audience to a skilled pole demo which has a lot of positive feedback in the comments section. So I think the video actually ended up benefiting the pole community.

 

 

 
Oct 4, 2013
BadNewzPoleDanca
Just my two cents...

I'm confused by people who wanted the video to focus more on the pole dancers..it's about Rhianna.  Kudos to her because she does execute some nice (though not advanced) pole moves in there.  (I believe she's the chick with the hat on.)  Even moving around the pole with some attitude is something to be proud of.  If she wants to demonstrate the proper way to twerk, let her!  I didn't think it was a big deal...I mean it goes with the song.

Congrats to Nicole and the other dancers..they did a good job.

And yeah, that bra thingy she wore was really cool!
Oct 4, 2013 from United States
Oakmama Paid Member
I love RhiRhi. Leave that girl alone and let her do her thing. I believe poling is an art of self expression and yes it can be sexy as hell. I have never felt more alive in my own skin since I've been poling and its only been a few months. So I say....pour it up... pour it up!
Oct 4, 2013
Black Orchid
If I had to pick a music video that really repped for pole dancing and was shot well and had a great song etc I would pick Diplo's "Set It Off". This video is not quite on that level for me but other than that I thought it had a lot of pretty visual moments. I liked the outfits, the pole dancers and yes, the strippers. There are pole dancers in strip clubs! The song is about going to a strip club! I don't think people are going to get any kind of "wrong impression" from this video. And also, YES to everything Veena said. And YES to the fact that the "making of" and Nicole's audition videos are probably what are more valuable to us as far as driving students to studios. Win-win situation. PS After our student showcases we GO to the strip clubs and have a good time watching the dancers and playing on the poles. No one is confused about the difference. No shame in the game.
Oct 4, 2013 from San Antonio, Texas, United States
Anya123
Poling is always going to be stereotyped as slutty and associated with stripping/strip clubs, always.Just depends on if someone who is judging is ignorant to the fact that there are different kinds of pole dancing.Before I got into poling and actually seeing youtube videos of competitions or people doing it for fitness i thought that's all a pole was used for was in strip clubs. Rihanna's video didn't set back anything. Until someone like me actually researches or knows someone they know does poling for fitness that's all they will know..
Oct 4, 2013
PhnixxRed
Ninja Sarah, the pictures and incident you're referring to is Carnival. It's a huge thing in the Caribbean and it's common for women to dress provocatively. There are also mini festivals like this in the USA, but they don't have as much notoriety and recognition as Carnival. There was one a few weeks ago in New York and I wish I could have been there to experience it.
I was expecting more out of the video as far as the clips, but it is a music video at the end of the day. I hope that the dancers' audition videos are released! I'd love to see their talents!
Oct 4, 2013 from Lawton, Oklahoma, United States
Phoenix Hunter Paid Member
I liked her bra, I liked the booty popping in the water. song was ok. I thought it was kinda cool to see a female singer display pole dancers in her video. Usually it's just the men who have the pole dancers in their video as they are throwing money at them. I think alot of female singers won't have pole dancing in their video because the dancers would outshine them. Rhianna doesn't seem to be afraid of that, she seems to celebrate the sexiness of other women. She strikes me as the kind of woman who goes to strip clubs and has a good time. Stripping is a part of pole dancing and we should not deny that. There is nothing wrong with being sexy. People are gonna think what they think until they know better. Her video is not gonna undo anything. Did I mention I liked her bra!!! yes I did. I love it!

 
Oct 5, 2013 from California, United States
platformsanddubstep
It absolutely will tie pole dancing to stripping, but as many said, sexuality is the purpose of the video. I so wish we could have seen more dancing but I'll take what I can get with pole in the media :) I would always dance to this in the club... where was my water at... the water twerk is everything! 
Oct 5, 2013 from Canada
blondebird
Think the video does no harm. We should embrace all kinds of pole dancing as there is no style out there which is bad! I don't think it brings it down as it was already out there! The song isn't one of her best.
Oct 5, 2013 from Pole Land, England, United Kingdom
Danielle Tillie
I just really didn't like the song much so I'm sure that affected my opinion. I did like what I saw on the pole though. My opinion regarding pole being advertised in the media showcasing its strip club roots has changed the longer I've been pole dancing. When I first started things like this would nearly anger me. That reaction stemmed from newly having to deal with the stigma of being a pole dancer. I have a much tougher skin now when it comes to that so I don't care anymore. Let's just celebrate all that pole had to offer, strip clubs and all. :) Bring it on, haters.
Oct 5, 2013 from Cincinnati, Ohio, United States
CapFeb Previous Paid Member
HOLD UP. Stop the thread. 

Anyone notice. Hands free titanic! Caught on tape! 2:49! 

Also; I hate this song. So couldn't care less about the music video. But I like that there are pole dancers. DOING TITANIC. What up. 
Oct 6, 2013 from Glendale, Arizona, United States
OopseyDaisey
I really like a lot of her songs, but this one is unmemorable at best. The people who actually believe the lyrics of this song (strippers are all rolling in $$ and twerk 24/7) probably believe that women live to please men and pole dancing is only a tool to be sexy for men. The rest of world will see past that and know it's just using sexy images to sell a record. I honestly don't think that this one video is going to change anyone's mind either way...heck, cop shows on TV have more strip club scenes than this.
Oct 6, 2013 from Los Angeles, California, United States
Mummyof3 Paid Member
Well I just hope Rihanna was impressed by some of those pole moves! She could have at least attempted a Fireman spin!
Oct 7, 2013 from London, England, United Kingdom
chemgoddess1 Paid Member
She WAS impressed....listen to her in this video: [www.youtube.com]

 
Oct 7, 2013 from Raleigh-ish, NC, United States
Krissykiki Paid Member
I liked the dancing, pole and water twerking (cause it was awesome) but I didn't really get into the song so that kinda took away from it for me. Some talented dancers were in there for sure though!
Oct 7, 2013 from British Columbia, Canada
Oakmama Paid Member
@ Mummy of 3 ..hahaha I know right! LMAO
Oct 7, 2013
sexyladymyisha4454 Previous Paid Member
i loved the video.ri ri was looking very sexy and nicole the pole williams did a wonderful job.

 
Oct 7, 2013 from Miami, Florida, United States
sexyladymyisha4454 Previous Paid Member
they are not strippers ,nicole the pole williams has her own dance studio in california

 

 

 

 

 

 
Oct 7, 2013 from Miami, Florida, United States
sexyladymyisha4454 Previous Paid Member
they are not strippers ,nicole the pole williams has her own dance studio in california

 

 

 

 

 

 
Oct 7, 2013 from Miami, Florida, United States
sexyladymyisha4454 Previous Paid Member
they are not strippers ,nicole the pole williams has her own dance studio in california

 

 

 

 

 

 
Oct 7, 2013 from Miami, Florida, United States
sexyladymyisha4454 Previous Paid Member
they are not strippers ,nicole the pole williams has her own dance studio in california

 

 

 

 

 

 
Oct 7, 2013 from Miami, Florida, United States
sexyladymyisha4454 Previous Paid Member
they are not strippers ,nicole the pole williams has her own dance studio in california

 

 

 

 

 

 
Oct 7, 2013 from Miami, Florida, United States
AriFerrari
I'm slightly confused at who is being blamed here for this so-called "step back" in the presentation of pole dancing? Neither Rihanna, the video director, or filming crew really owe anything to the pole community. The pole dancers in this video auditioned and chose to dance in a video ABOUT strippers and strip clubs. The pole dancers are the ones who chose to represent themselves and their pole dancing in this way. However, I'm not bashing them either. In fact, I don't really understand how this new division  between the "stripper style" dancing and what I call the "olympic ambitious" style in our own community isn't just as counterproductive as the stigma we receive from outsiders.

Pole dancers borrow stripper moves, strippers borrow pole fitness tricks, and some strippers are pole dancers or vice versa. Does this mean strippers are suddenly banned from dancing on poles LIKE strippers because we've made a sport of it? I mean, isn't that kind of silly considering the origination of our apparatus?

 
Oct 7, 2013 from United States
nilla Paid Member
At least one part of Rihanna's "Pour it Up" video is seared into my memory forever: DENIM THONG
Oct 30, 2013 from Saint George, Utah, United States
Pssst Little Kitty Paid Member
FACTS : Pole dancing is a great sport. Pole can be a sexy sport. Strippers are ok, to each his own. And, rihannas video is disgusting.
Nov 5, 2013 from Florida, United States
Phoenix Hunter Paid Member
wow, I had to watch it again to see what disgusted you. haha! I guess I'm de-sensitized to all the sexuality in the video. I'm just curious as to what you were offended by. I'm not saying you have to like it, but "disgusted" seems to be a strong statement. You say pole dancing is a great sport and can be a sexy sport. so I'm wondering if this video is pushing pole beyond what you consider to be a sport? or was it rhianna's booty shaking in her denim thong. just curious, dont feel like you have to defend your answer because you don't. I was just wondering what you were thinking.
Nov 5, 2013 from California, United States
Laura KittyCat
It is a song about making money as a stripper, so I dont understand how so many are disgusted or flabbergasted at the content of the video. I thought it was a reasonably artistic interpretation of what one might find at a night club.... Frankly I was more nauseated at Miley's performance and so called twerking... I threw up in my mouth a lil bit on that one... To each their own, we know who we are and why we pole, and that's that. While we sit here demanding people think of pole with an open mind its a little hypocritical to criticize some one else's take on stripping or pole dance. If we want people to be open minded and non-judgmental, we should at least hold ourselves to our own standards, right?
Nov 5, 2013 from Raleigh, North Carolina, United States
nilla Paid Member
I can't speak for Little Kitty on what disgusted her about the music video, but I don't think finding something disgusting or being turned off by something necessarily signifies judgement. If you can be nauseated at Miley's performance without being considered closed-minded or judgmental, why couldn't a person feel the same way about Rihanna's "Pour it Up" video? Taking such a stylized approach, dripping with sexuality, carries a risk with it: the risk that not everyone will have your same idea of what's "sexy".

If I walked in on my parents "pouring it up" I'd probably have about the same reaction that I have seeing Rihanna's "pour it up" video. Not only am I not that into it, but because it's so targeted at being sexy in a way that I don't find all that sexy, then it actually grosses me out a little. Would I be judging my parents if I walked in on them? No. Would I be closed minded because I don't agree with someone else's idea of sexy? No.
Nov 5, 2013 from Saint George, Utah, United States
CherryPop4u Paid Member
Call it what you want!!!! But I LOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pole Dancing was made for the strip club, circus and entertainment of that nature! It didn't start off as a sport! How's anyone gonna try to take the sexual, entertaining part of Pole dancing away from it?...... (Something that has and always will be there) and It did not become at "sport" until it started to be taught to regular everyday woman that wanted to find the inner SEX KITTIN and until we brought the pole into our homes!!!! If it started off as a sport it would've been a part of the Olympics! While ppl are just fighting for it within just of no more than 15/20 years if not less than that! So to whomever don't like the video! Get the FUDGE OVER IT!!!! THE POUR IT UP VIDEO IS FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!!!
Nov 5, 2013
Phoenix Hunter Paid Member
there's definitely no wrong or right answer, this is all a matter of opinion and taste and I appreciate hearing other peoples opinion especially when I feel differently. I like to see things through someone else's eyes, I always learn what I may be missing whether I agree or not.
Nov 5, 2013 from California, United States
nilla Paid Member
Forgot to add, the OP is an entirely different issue than what I was addressing. I don't think the pour it up video sets pole dance back in any way shape or form. No more than this video sets back the reputation of tight pants: [www.youtube.com]

It may not be my idea of sexy (which weirdly is the ultimate insult for some people), but it's one of those things you just gotta respect because of the WTF factor.
Nov 5, 2013 from Saint George, Utah, United States
Phoenix Hunter Paid Member
I liked both rhianna and miley's video, but I consider my taste to be a little on the risqué side.
Nov 5, 2013 from California, United States
Phoenix Hunter Paid Member
Nilla, it's ok to not like the video. I hope no one is attacking you for that. that is pretty hypocritical if they are.
Nov 5, 2013 from California, United States
Black Orchid
Of course using a strong word like disgusting implies judgement. How we move from there to a place of constructive discussion ( like being able to answer the question of why was it disgusting exactly and then a cool back and forth) is the point, I think. Sorry I've been teaching all day. Ha ha.

This video is all about being in the club. Honestly I'll take this one over Ludacris' " Tip Drill". Now THAT I found disgusting. LOL.
Nov 5, 2013 from San Antonio, Texas, United States
Phoenix Hunter Paid Member
exactly BlackOrchid :)
Nov 5, 2013 from California, United States
nilla Paid Member
Black Orchid I meant judgment in the moral sense, as in "You must be morally inept a.k.a. a bad person if you pole dance, or like this or that style of pole dance". As opposed to judging something to be not very sexy, or even disgusting. I think there's a big difference between the two. I haven't seen Ludacris' Tip Drill Video. *resists urge to look it up*
Nov 5, 2013 from Saint George, Utah, United States
Black Orchid
I knew what you meant, no worries ;). The word judgmental IS being used in both ways here and that's ok as long as we can have a good back and forth about it. Save your eyeballs and skip "Tip Drill", BTW.
Nov 5, 2013 from San Antonio, Texas, United States
Pssst Little Kitty Paid Member
I ♥ strippers and sexy dancing.that's not what I meant by disgusting. I just thought rihanna looked stupid doing it cause she doesn't know anything about pole dancing except for what ever she was doing on that chair and her nasty floor humping. Which frankly I'd rather see a sexy stripper do than rihannas ratchet a$$. She should take herself out of that video and just leave the pole dancers. Rihanna=Miley=Nasty. And eww to the denim thong.
Nov 5, 2013 from Florida, United States
Pssst Little Kitty Paid Member
^^^ all my opinion tho.
Nov 5, 2013 from Florida, United States
Black Orchid
LOL! Tell us how you feel about RiRi. So I read an interview with Nicole where she said they had to reshoot some stuff because Rihanna was a bit wasted on the first day. I also read somewhere else that she did teach Rihanna some basic pole work and she picked it up. My guess is that a lot of that was left on the cutting room floor.
Nov 5, 2013 from San Antonio, Texas, United States
Cherished Paid Member
In the vid they did include a few beginner spins that Rihanna did. (I'm pretty certain the dancer with the baseball cap and long black hair is her) I saw her do a back hook spin and a knee spin. Being that it was her first pole lesson I think she did well. I couldn't even get my legs off off the ground at all or do a fireman spin on my first lesson so I give her props.
Nov 6, 2013
Cherished Paid Member
Also another interesting thing I've noticed that ties in with the OPs question is the overall public reaction which is pretty negative towards the Pour it Up video vs the very positive reaction to The audition tape (almost at 4mill and still climbing!!) I hope the pole world especially those who try to bar strippers from competing and denounce the exotic aspect of pole because they don't want to be stigmatized or feel it drags down pole in the eyes of the public see that people will ultimately appreciate the skill of the individual. The proof is finally right here.
Nov 6, 2013
Pssst Little Kitty Paid Member
I knew it!! I knew she was mollied out Miley style! Lol just hatin on Riri over here!
Nov 6, 2013 from Florida, United States
detectivestiletto
One of the dancers in the video,"Secret Moneii" IS a stripper.
Nov 19, 2013
Black Orchid
I found this article fascinating. It gave me a different perspective on Rihanna's choices for the video. [thehairpin.com]
Nov 20, 2013 from San Antonio, Texas, United States
anngiern Paid Member
So funny to me ... Pour it up was our #1 requested song for classes and parties this past year. I guess it really depends on where you live and your market. We throw the fake money and everything. Rihanna has great music and you can dance to it. Sometimes I think people just need to relax, have fun,go with the flow and shake your ass a little. Lighten up!!!

But it does suck that she was wasted and they had to reshoot :( I hope her fame does not lead her down a crappy path of drugs and alcohol.
Nov 22, 2013 from Atlanta, Georgia, United States
cupcakejenea
the song it self i dont care for,i dont listen to that kinda music really, i thought the video was low class to put it nicely,but its just my opinion.
Nov 22, 2013 from Yuma, Arizona, United States
Oakmama Paid Member
For so many adverse comments and reactions Rhianna sure is getting a lot of attention on SV..Im just saying!!
Nov 22, 2013
Kate92 Paid Member
*Is this the "Tip Drill" video you guys are talking about?
Whether it is or not...ew...I didn't like Rihanna's video either but at least it had cool pole moves. This is just...I don't even have the words.*

EDIT: I removed the link because having watched some more of it, I was concerned I might actually get in trouble with SV for posting something that was borderline pornographic! Sure I found Rihanna's horrible denim thong arse-shaking a bit gross, but this was really disgusting. I consider myself to be pretty open minded but honestly...it's like feminism never happened. (The video I saw was by Nelly, not Ludacris, so not sure if it was the same one that Black Orchid was referring to)
Nov 23, 2013 from London, England, United Kingdom
korinne
I didn't think anyone else knew the song tip drill. I bring it up all the time and everyone looks confused!
Nov 23, 2013 from Cleveland, Ohio, United States
FITQUTIE45 Paid Member
Awesome video in my opinion. Everyone will use pole fitness (dancing) in their own way. I wish I could move as fluent & graceful as Nicole does. And to have the opportunity to be in a video that will help to promote me and my business, I am all for it. To each its own, I hope to be able to gain the skills that will allow me to go "viral"...LOL
Nov 23, 2013 from Garner, North Carolina, United States
kaygee10 Previous Paid Member
the video could have been cooler i wish they were in an actual club and made it rain. as for the song, it is sexual and about being in the strip club...idk why anyone is surprized at the way it turned out, what did you expect, rihanna fully covered head to toe? feminism is not about women being in control and ruling over men, its about equality for everyone. i just find it so hypocritical that women who pole dance are completlely upset by the way it was portrayed or try to separate themselves from exotic dancers, however they want pole dancing to be accepted but wont accept stripping as an honest occupation. how is rihanna expressing her sexuality a bad thing, what wrong can come from it...more women might do it??? if more women do it, it must be because they feel empowered and in control of their own body and sexuality. how can you expect people to respect your expression of sexuality if you wont do the same for others. twerking, or moving your hips, jirating, is not bad, your eyes wont explode...its kinda how we all got here
and for the person who made the comment about the carnival festival...shame on you for making a mockery of someones culture, including mine. we are all grown ass people, whats the big deal?
Nov 30, 2013
Kate92 Paid Member
kaygee if the feminism thing was referring to my comment, I was talking about Nelly's Tip Drill video, not Rihanna's. I had no problem with the pole dancing in her vid, the moves were impressive, I just found her denim thong and wiggling her business around with her legs in the air not to my taste :P The Tip Drill video is in a whole different league, and not in the least bit 'empowering' it is literally just six minutes of scantily clad women being objectified by fully clothed men.
Nov 30, 2013 from London, England, United Kingdom
Kate92 Paid Member
I tell a lie, 7 minutes.
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The version I saw was the uncensored one, if you want to see that you can google it.
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Nov 30, 2013 from London, England, United Kingdom
kaygee10 Previous Paid Member
the feminist comment wasnt a personal attack on character, and everyone is entitle to their own opinion. there are just so many forms of feminism that it cant be vaguely described. im a burlesque performer and have recently tried bikini dancing and im not ashamed of admitting that im a feminist nor that i dont care if ppl see my naked body, im from the carribean where women walk around topless and nobody gives a shit. just generally speaking, im just a big advocate for grown ass women expressing their sexuality/emotions/pride with their own body in whatever way they feel empowers and satisfying to them. i seen the tip drill video about 10 years ago when i was a teen, it was like watching porn. now i just think..well these women arent slaves they certainly didnt do it for free, this is no different than what happens in some strip clubs, or in porn. pornography is a legal occupation they didnt have to be there if they didnt want to. and nelly probably didnt make this video with the intent to please all his female friends. but imagine if the roles in that video were reversed..lol imagine how ppl would react. i guess im just not really bothered by explicity. im sorry if you felt that it was a personal attack, you cant necessarily interpret tones and expressions of feelings over the internet, but i am a very opinionated individual and i say how i feel.
Nov 30, 2013
Kate92 Paid Member
I didn't think it was a personal attack so no worries, just thought perhaps you misunderstood my comment. My problem with the Tip Drill video isn't necessarily with the women themselves, as you say they're doing it of their own free will and were presumably paid a fair amount for it, but the video itself I found quite horrible to watch and I found it far from 'empowering' - in my opinion that word is thrown around too much these days. I never had an opinion of Nelly before but seeing that video has made up my mind! Anyhow this thread is about Rihanna's video and now we're off topic, so I'll leave it at that.
Nov 30, 2013 from London, England, United Kingdom
 
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