Bringing sexy back
Has anybody here heard of "Bringing sexy back weeck"? Is anybody participating? It has already started and I'm so excited to watch all the videos!!! If you haven't heard of it and you wanna know what it is here is the original idea: http://www.unitedpoleartists.com/do... you are doing it, please let me know!!! I wanna see your sexy video too!!
I saw this video of bodybinds! it was on facebook's group stripperstyle (: I thought it was a cool idea because it looks great. So many women dancing sexy, is hard to see what everybody is doing at the same time. It is very entertaining!!! Now that I know which one you are I'll watch it again.
I posted my video on stripperstyle too, it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7OI...
i saw this last week on UPA & i wanted to try it. i have never tried to be sexy in my life, & never pole danced sexy i gave it a shot monday & wednesday & OMG that is the funniest shit ever! my version of sexy is just awkward, i have great flow, but when i try to be sexy i LMAO & ruin my viedos. i'm gonna try again in a little while when i pole. i may post a "trying to be sexy" instead of a real sexy vid.
DROOL...fanning myself over here LOL
There is a whole discussion going on regarding the direction that pole is going. So many of the competitions are stating "no overtly sexy moves" etc, hence making the comps more like a gymnastics routine than a pole dance. How many of us get pissed about being called strippers? How many of us have explained that it is a good form of exercise and totally glossed over how it has brought us to terms or even helped us find our sexy? This I believe is what this campaign is about. Australia has kept that sexy edge but for some reason we feel that we need to hide it in our competitions to be seen as legit. Think about it.
I would be very interested in seeing pole in the Olympics. Actually, it would be the first time I would have any reason to ever watch the Olympics I understand that the Olympic version must be more gymnastic/acrobatic and somehow regulated with no overtly sexy moves but that doesn't mean that sexy dancing would immediately be banned everywhere else! Pole dancing is probably the most diverse style ever and we should embrace that diversity.
Yes ABN I miss the dancing and emotional aspect of it too. I also did notice the same thing about enjoying older videos more than newer ones because the pole work lately just looks so stiff and mechanical to me. As far as the olympics, I'm not for or against it but I personally find pole without dance boring.
I uploaded mine last night. Id put my link out there but YT is banned at work (fun ruiners!). If you go to my main page www.youtube.com/minicoopergrl it should be the first video that pops up.
the idea came to me while I was driving home Thursday. It looked good when I editited it but its hard the be the performer and run video at the same time.
I just posted mine to YT and a few pertinent FB pages. Its also on my profile page now :) I had a lot of fun sexy freedancing!
I posted 2 videos. If the links don't work, they're also on my facebook and here on my SV page. Not what you usually see me do. I save my sexiness for showcases and cabaret performances, like this show. This style of performance is a nice break from competition routines. Gonna go watch some of the other videos now.
I had so much fun watching these links!!! thank you for posting! It was a great week and I felt great participating, I was so stressed out and after I did it I felt so much better, just knowing that I did something that I enjoyed and nobody would judge in a moral nor in a profesional way. No need to hold back or impress anyone. No shyness and no advanced tricks. Just dancing.
I fell in love with pole dancing because it is expressive and sexy. I think most of the tricks are naturaly sexy so I don't understand why somebody would not want to focus on that. I don't fully enjoy pole dancing in a completely acrobatic style, or in a ballet style...I just don't get it. I think you cannot take the sensual part out of dancing tango, you cannot take the sensual part out of bellydancing...and with pole dancing I think it's the same. It's the way the dance was born and I feel it should stay that way no matter how many other elements you can include. Fusions are great and dangerous combos are great too, but I don't think you can take sexy out of pole dancing. It is difficult to pole dance in an emotional and expressive way without sexy, even if it is romantic, nostalgic or whatever, it is always a bit sexy unless you don't express anything at all. And if it doesn't express anything....it is not dancing to me.
I'm glad pole dancing will be in the olympics but I'm sad that it will be shown to the world as a boring sport. I'm sure other disciplines that also are in the olympics are sexy too, right? like ice skating??rythmic gymnastics?? they were sparkly outfits and move pretty sexy to me, at least in artistic and enjoyable performances. It shouldn't be a problem with pole dancing.
Plus....it is ok to pole dance without heels, but to me...heels are a part of it, I hope they accept that in the olympics though I don't think so...but I would like to ask people if they imagine bellydancers without their sexy outfits or tango dancers without heels...I don't think so either... then they should accept the way pole dancing really is.
@ Schttoffen - Ok, your post made me really mad, but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and let you explain yourself. Tell me why the entire discipline of pole and all of its possibilities- which can include things as difficult as doing a back flip from one pole onto another- is "not as hard as Olympic level gymnastics."
Ocuspocus, I totally agree with you (ESPECIALLY about the shoes) and I posted my own "Sexy Back" video. You may go to my profile here to find it. Can we not use this thread to argue about pole in the Olympics? There are other discussions on this site that cover the topic pretty thoroughly! Thanks.
@ Layla - I understand the frustration when threads get off onto another topic, but it may be difficult to seperate the question of what it means to "bring sexy back" to pole dancing, from the question of whether/how pole dancing should be in the Olympics, because a lot of that debate has to do with how pole is presented and how/to what degree it is "sexy."
Frankly, I found the whole "bringing sexy back" week to be odd. Sexy left pole at some point? I think what is implied is a very specific notion of what constitutes sexy, and it is over this notion that the argument about the Olympics is being fought, hence it's awfully difficult to keep the conversation from veering in that direction.
Perhaps a conversation that might be less prone to going in that direction would be a conversation about what it means to pole dance in a "sexy" way to begin with.
When all the conversations about pole is this or pole is that are happening, one point is always brought up that I think really defines the point of Bringing Back Sexy week. That point is this: The pole, in and of itself is not inherently sexy just because its a pole. Its not any more sexy than a chair, or the floor. The dancer is sexy (or not! depending on what they are going for) on any, all, or none of these apparatus.
This was a week to be sensual, in the way that the dancers want to portray, and not have to apologize for it. I definitely think that sexy isn't always in pole, but thats a dancer's choice either way. It gave me a chance to let my hair down, wear a cute outfit with shoes, and be sensual in the way that I know how (and this is the crux of it all, for me, really). For once, I didn't really bother with trying to validate pole dance to the masses in a typically clean dance, with multiple trick combos. I don't care if someone sees my video and thinks... "whoa, that should never be in the Olympics." Because I don't need or want to compete in sexiness, :) and I personally don't need to justify my dance by working it into the competitive sport world. One thing I loved about this week was seeing all the different and beautiful ways people dance sensually!
While the standardization is good, and competing can be really awesome in pushing the envelope for pole dance, to me personally working for pole in the Olympics feels like pushing a round peg in a square hole. However, I am in support of the pole community, and just like every other athletic pursuit, it takes all kinds. Pole can and should be influenced by different types of sports and dance because that is how it will grow and stay fresh. I don't think that because pole started in the clubs it has to stay there. And I do think, that pole can be whatever we individually want it to be, thats why I started it in the first place, and why I love it so much.
@Vallens "your post made me really mad" Really? Mad? Because I have a different opinion? "but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and let you explain yourself" Cheers. Patronising much?
I'm saying it because I think the levels of training and commitment required to compete at top gymnastic levels are insane. That's why girls train from the age of four, for hours every day, their whole careers and still don't sometimes cut it. As beautiful, taxing and difficult as pole is it's not in the same league. I think a pro gymnast could pick up advanced pole very quickly if show the correct way, give or take some bruises, but could a pro poler pick up the tumbling passes, balance bean dismounts, vaults and uneven bar catches and releases that are demanded of Olympic standard gym without years of intensive training and supervision? Don't think so.
That's what I think from years of being a gymnastics fan and working with Olympians in my current job and listening to them talk about their training scheduals. So there you are, that's my explanation of my opinion, sorry if it makes you mad!
While your reasoning is valid, trying to say that pole does not belong in the Olympics just because it is not as hard as gymnastics is not a valid argument. I honestly cannot think of any other Olympic sport that probably IS as difficult as gymnastics. Do you honestly think curling is difficult? What about equestrian sports?
Ah, well that point was specific addressing the challenge to defend the idea that a top poler's stregnth is not that of a top gymnasts.
And working with athletes yes I do think curling is probably very difficult and and the amount of strenght, balance and dedication that is needed for event and show jumping is extreme.
BUT the reason I drew the comparison in the first place was because, if pole was included in the games it would have to be it's own event so to speak, but it is most like gymnastics, so I think, it would run the risk of appearing like a poor man's gymnastics and probably end up getting ridiculed for that.
Also, the difficulty level is relevant. All athletes adhere to a brutal training programme... If Olympic polers trainer from the age of four to a future Olympian's programme I think there'd simply be far too many top quality polers with no way of distinguishing between them!
Thanks for actually makinga point instead of munching my head off :) Starting to wish I'd kept my gob shut to be honest!
Schtoffen...I think I undertsand what you are saying. I don't think that pole dancing is right now something you have to train since you are four to be able to do it but if it gets in the olympics it will become that, because it will have to compete with a very high level. Of course pole dancing is incredibly difficult but when I started watching videos it wasn't...you know...completely insane. I mean, you can do pretty stuff without being a contortionist but once it is in the olympics I think that will change. I love the fact that pole dancing grows and I love watching contortionists pole dancing or pole dancers coming up with new tricks that are more and more challenging but I don't want it to become just that. I think that in the future it is possible that pole dancing splits into 2 different disciplines: the dance and the vertical bar gymnastics :P I just hope people give two different names to the disciplines so that both are respected instead of saying that one of them is pole dancing and the other one is nothing.
@Schtoffen - Yes, it did make me mad to see a poler on a pole site saying that pole is not as hard as gymnastics. It's the kind of thing I expect to hear from people who don't know anything about pole, not from people who you would expect to have respect for their own sport. To say that you disagree about it being in the Olympics for some other reason is one thing, but to say it's not hard enough as a discipline....it's insulting.
The fact is, if pole were in the Olympics, it would take the same amount of training as gymnastics. In fact, it would take a lot of the same exact training. If you doubt that, look into what it takes to get into, say, Cirque du Soleil, doing pole. Those people train from childhood, often first in gymnastics and dance, and then in acrobatics.
At the end of the day, pole is nothing more than an apparatus, like horizontal bars, or rings, or pommel horse, or trapeze, or silks, or any apparatus. If you want to work it at an Olympic level- not just at what studios refer to as an 'advanced' level- you need all of the same skills that gymnasts, acrobats, and dancers need, and then you also need the skills germane to the pole itself. That's a lot of skills, and a lot of training. Of course it's true that someone who already has some of this training would pick up pole faster than others; that hardly says anything about the difficulty of the disciple as a whole.
I think pole dancing in an olympic level would require the same training or the same difficulty as the other disciplines but most of them have years and years of evolution while pole dancing doesn't. Maybe I'm wrong but pole dancing has gotten more acrobatic in the last 10 years?? and other olympic disciplines have been evolving for so much more time that it could make pole dancing look simpler or less complete perhaps?? I don't think Schtoffen meant to be offensive.
Ultimately, I do think that if pole made it to the Olympics, it would essentially become yet another gymnastic apparatus of sorts. Not that it would be included within the specific gymnastics competition, but that it would be another apparatus event in itself that gymnasts would be able to utilize to qualify for the Olympics. They are with their training and specific athletic abilities most likely going to be the athletes best able to translate their current skills to this potential new discipline. I think the only reason the question of difficulty comes up is because vertical pole will likely be compared to gymnastics, as Schtoffen mentioned, even if the initial competitors aren't Olympic-grade gymnasts crossing over. If pole gets established in global sports, either polers will train like gymnasts or gymnasts will cross over to pole and in the end, its the same thing anyways.
For me, I end up thinking that pole in the Olympics could be great for some, but not how I would come to appreciation for this crazy fun awesome phenomenon we call pole dance. To some, I think an Olympic bid would provide justification for what we do. In the end, even if pole is in the Olympics, it won't be showing pole for pole as we see it: the diverse DANCE form with sensuality, athleticism, raw emotion, power, no real rules, etc. People outside of our community will likely only see gymnastics on a pole. And events like the Bringing Back Sexy week will still be fringe activities, as I am pretty sure the sensuality will not be hitching a ride to the Olympics.
Maybe I overthink it, and these are just my thoughts. I guess what I would love to see for pole today is the realization that its ok for women to be sensual and to not be demeaned for it etc. To me, this is important. Maybe an Olympic bid is the way to get it in the conciousness of people who aren't already in the pole community. But I am not sure that it is a step on the way to women being celebrated for being strong enough to be sensual and unapologetic for it. That's why I feel kind of lukewarm about pole in the Olympics.
I think pole being in the Olympics would be a way to show people that pole doesn't just mean taking you clothes off. It would show how pole takes strength, balance, and athleticism. It would be great to get appreciation for blood, sweat, and tears we put in to this sport that we love.
But then on the other side I feel in love with pole because of the dance and because of the uniqueness of each dancer. I feel that if pole goes omlypic then we may loose that uniqueness and that ability to incorporate your own style and use expression of dance. I don't see how the pole dancing that I feelin love with could be judged in the Olympics because each dancer is so unique. Yeah I loved the amazing tricks but what was even better was seeing how each dancer could be so fluid and sexy and add their own touch of flare to each move. How can that be judged in a competition like the Olympics?
It's funny, I never hear about other aerial artists (ie. silks, lyra, trapeze) or professional dancers clambering to be represented in the Olympics. I could be totally wrong but it seems that this is more about erasing the stigma and becoming validated and recognized as a viable sport.
I guess I'm pretty neutral on this topic, though. I support the athletic pole tricksters with Olympic aspirations as much as I support the polers that wanna keep it sexy. This sensual and athletic artform can evolve in so many directions, creating competitive and performance opportunities for anyone interested.
HA! I just scrolled up to the original thread and realized it had absolutely nothing to do with the Olympics. Oh well, so I added my insignificant 2 cents about pole in the Olympics.
As for Bringing Sexy Back... I've LOVED watching all the videos! Ain't nothin' better than seeing women own, honor and embrace their sensuality.
MissMeliss, I did not state that they were not hard, the original statement was that pole is not as hard as gymnastics so it did not deserve to be in the Olympics. My rebuttal was that neither are curling nor equestrian events. EVERY sport has a level of dedication however I do not see people train for most of them the way that they do for gymnastics.
Schtoffen, it is all good.
"Yes, it did make me mad to see a poler on a pole site saying that pole is not as hard as gymnastics. It's the kind of thing I expect to hear from people who don't know anything about pole, not from people who you would expect to have respect for their own sport."
Haha oh dear, looks like I've let the side down then ;)
Been loving watching all the videos! One of my favorite dancers, Chalese just posted one last night! (search Bringing Sexy Back - Chalese Marie on YouTube to check it out - she is seriously amazingly strong AND sexy)
I used to make my living as a writer, so I decided to write a short blog post on my thoughts on "How to Be Sexy" Check it out and let me know what you think!
Ahh, all good Chem.
Realistically, though, ANY competitor in an olympic event would have huge schedules of training though. I don't know if it's really right to say one is harder than another.
Back on topic, though.. Loved the BSB videos. I hope one year I'll have the guts to do one. I just feel such a fool whenever I attempt anything sexy >.<
MissMeliss: I don't mean to be pushy but...do it!! DO IT! do a bringin sexy back video! If you feel you don't have the guts to do it, then you should do it and prove yourself wrong! Don't think that you'll be doing somehting silly, tink that even if you don't consider it sexy you are doing it to support the idea of sexy dancing! We don't do it because we think we are sexy, we do it because we want to express how we feel when we are sexy, and everybody is sexy!!! everybody should feel free to express his/her sexy side and this is what we are deffending in a way! that poel dancing is for everyone! not only for good dancers, sexy or beautiful dancers; it's for everyone to enjoy and have fun! I'm sure if you do it you'll have fun too! and if you don't feel safe to post ir for anybody to see you can just post it here and we will encourage you! You'll get credit for it and you'll feel happy you didt it, even more if you think you don't have the guts, you will feel more confident and brave!